[Advaita-l] On Ramana
ventzu at yahoo.co.uk
Fri Jun 25 14:58:04 EDT 2021
There is an interesting statement in Sankara’s bhasya to BG18.50:
“Therefore what is to be undertaken is only the elimination of the superimposition on Brahman through ignorance, but no effort is needed for knowing Brahman, for It is quite self-evident. It is because the intellect is distracted by particular appearances of name and from imagined through ignorance. . .”
So that is the essence - not a new knowledge to be gained, even one that (theoretically) negates ignorance, but the actual elimination of the superimposition, ultimately of the arising of the ‘me/mine’ thought. Much of what Sankara says - for example in BG13.2 - is that the teacher should be consistent with sruti; and if not, he is unreliable.
I don’t think I have come across quite such a definitive pronouncement by Sankara as you imply below. I would be grateful if you would point me to such a comment.
> On 25 Jun 2021, at 18:10, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at hitachi-powergrids.com> wrote:
> praNAms Sri Ven Balakrishnan prabhuji
> The whole point of sruti is to point out what cannot be perceived through other means. And that pointing is essentially to the fact that you are not what you think you are, that it is all an unreal superimposition.
>> yes to realize this truth what is the ultimate/only means?? That is shabda pramANa, shAstra is the ultimate pramANa (antya pramANa), and the realization of our true svarUpa should happen through shravaNAdi sAdhana has to be done through shAstra only under the able guidance of shrOtreeya brahmanishTa guru. As per bhAshyakAra Individual experience and teachings / doctrine based on this experience is not a valid pramANa. The traditional teaching insists this method of sAdhana which may not be the version of ramaNa's method of self-enquiry.
> Ramanamaharishi says nothing different from that.
>> I would like to see where BRM insisted that to know who you are, the shAstra is the ONLY pramANa and means.
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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