[Advaita-l] Paramatma Antaratma
Bhaskara v Advaith
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Sat Sep 26 19:47:08 EDT 2020
Not sure about Krishnanda’s commentary. But when referring to 3rd Sholaka
of Mandukya it should be understood from the basis of 2nd Sholaka
which is “sarvaṁ
hy etad brahma, ayam ātmā brahma, so’yam ātmā catuṣ-pāt ” means everything
is Brahman, this Atma is also Brahma, and this Brahma has four quarters.
Here when referring to ‘quarters’ Shankarabgavadpada explains in his
bhashya as “chatuspath karshapanavath na gowrivath” meaning the word
“quarters” should not be referred to the meaning as four legs of the cow
but it should be referred to as 0.25 of a rupee. When a single rupee is
considered it has 0.25 rupee also and 0.25 rupee is nothing but with in a
rupee and 0.25 rupee can’t be considered as separate from single rupee.
With this in mind the 3rd sholaka of Mandukya is just referring to
characteristics of 0.25 rupee (symbolically) and hence there is no concept
ಭಾನು, ಸೆಪ್ಟೆಂ 27, 2020 ರಂದು 12:10 ಪೂರ್ವಾಹ್ನ ಸಮಯಕ್ಕೆ ರಂದು smallpress via
Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> ಅವರು ಬರೆದಿದ್ದಾರೆ:
> On Saturday, September 26, 2020, 12:56:44 PM EDT, V Subrahmanian <
> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:
> That you for your kind response, Subbu Ji.
> Is it not a bit problematic to talk of a creator paramatma when the
> Mandukya upanishad assert only one brhmam that always is, the Omkara?.ayam
> atma brhma it says.
> So when the quoted verse talks of the jiva in the jagrit state, the
> saptanga part belongs to the atma of the jiva itself, as the
> stulabhukVaishvanara: in this 3rd Mandukya verse:
> जागरितस्थानो बहिष्प्रज्ञः सप्ताङ्ग एकोनविंशतिमुखः स्थूलभुग्वैश्वानरः
> प्रथमः पादः ।।
> Doesn't bringing in the Paramatma concept kind of also brings in duality?
> The only difference in the Jiva in ignorance and the jiva realized is the
> state of duality. Duality is the ignorance
> I am sure I making some error in my reasoning.
> Thank you.
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 9:25 PM smallpress via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > Pranams to all of you.
> > अग्नीर्मूर्धा चक्षुषी चन्द्रसूर्यौ दिशः श्रोत्रे वाग्विवृताश्च वेदाः ।
> > वायुः प्रणो हृदयं विश्वमस्य पद्भ्यां पृथिवी ह्येष सर्वभूतान्तरात्मा ॥ ४ ॥
> > Krishnanda in his commentary on the Mandukya upanished (verse 3) says
> this verse from the Manduka upanishad refers to the Paramatma, that is
> Brhman. The verse seems to say it is the atma that resides in all the
> jivas. Would greatly appreciate clarification of what this specifically
> refers to.
> As per Advaita, the Paramatma, the one who created the universe, is the
> one dwelling in every jiva. The difference between jiva and that Paramatma
> is not absolute; it is only due to ignorance. Atma in this sense of
> residing in every jiva is only the other name for
> > Thank you.Soma
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