[Advaita-l] 'Sarva-shunya' is impossible!

Kuntimaddi Sadananda kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com
Mon May 25 04:00:09 EDT 2020


Chandramouliji - PraNAms
Even in Sushupti, mind, and chidaabhaasa are there but in the subtler state. There are experiences of a) absence of subject-object duality, b) awareness of kaarana shareera or ananda maya kosha resulting a) I slept very well, b) I did not know anything (absence of subject-object duality) and c) I was happy due to b). Thus the mind could recollect once it is awake. There has been extensive discussion in Advaitic literature that it is an experiential statement and not inferential statement. Saakshee is not an experiencer either. 
In other words, the mind is functioning at very low level with chidaabhaasa maintaining the sustaining life. 
This is my understanding.
Hari Om!Sadananda

 

    On Monday, 25 May, 2020, 11:20:14 am IST, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Pranams Sri Sadananda Ji,
I was referring to the revealing of the absence of mind **(refutation of mind and intellect)**  in sushupti by Chaitanya as sAkshi. Such revelation (refutation) is not through mind and intellect because it is absent.
Regards
On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 3:52 PM Kuntimaddi Sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:

Chandramouliji - PraNAms
See discussion with Subbuji.
Hari Om!Sadananda

 

    On Sunday, 24 May, 2020, 03:03:07 pm IST, H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:  
 
 Pranams Sri Sadananda Ji,

Reg  << Yes - but that refutation of mind and intellect is done by the mind
only! >>,

Not exactly. It is recollection of the samskAra of its refutation later by
the mind and intellect.

Regards

On Sun, May 24, 2020 at 1:56 PM Kuntimaddi Sadananda via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Subbuji PraNAms
> The external principle as Saakshee is recognized only by Advaitins.
> ------------So, no one can refute or deny the ephemeral mind and the
> intellect, and the
> world that is perceived and grasped by such intellect, without admitting
> the eternal Atman. Why? Because, the mind and the intellect can be refuted
> only through an alternative principle that is different from the mind and
> intellect.
> ---------
> Yes - but that refutation of mind and intellect is done by the mind only!
> Just could not resist!
> Hari Om!
> Sadananda
>
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