[Advaita-l] Tattvabodha of Adi Sankaracharya - 10

[H S Chandramouli]

Raghav Ji,

Namaste.

Reg  << Although these are upAsya as far as Vedanta is concerned, I was
assuming there would be more details in the veda pUrva bhAga >>,

Perhaps you can find their names and fields in the Kalpa Sutras as well as
pUjA vidhIs wherein various deities are invoked in the beginning.

Reg  << What is the moola reference text for the list of adhidaivika
devatAs mentioned in the tattva bodha treatise? It looks like a collection
derived from multiple original vedic  mantras or perhaps their derivatives
such as the shrauta and grihya sutra meemAmsA texts >>,

I agree. I am not aware of any single mantra or group of mantras at a
single location wherein such a list finds a place.However  they seem to be
covered at different places. For example, Aitareya Up 1-2-4 mentions
Agni,vAyu,Aditya and Dik  dEvatAs as the presiding deities for organs of
vAk (speech),ghrANa (smell),chakshus (sight) and shrOtra (hearing)
respectively. I have not checked on the others. I presume it should be
possible to locate them severally at different locations in the Shrutis.
But such a compilation is available in a number of other granthas apart
from Tatvabodha.
Regards

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 7:34 AM Raghav Kumar Dwivedula <
raghavkumar00 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Namaste ji
> Thank you for your mail sharing your understanding and the many references
> from BUB and BSB , Chandramouli ji. I shall carefully study them.
>
> I generally think of how a country is governed by having different
> provinces and districts etc with different administrators. And if we point
> to some small particular piece of land and ask who is in charge, we just
> assume it will fall in to one or the other jurisdictions. Sometimes I guess
> we may not always have the exact details.
>
> Even so every intelligent law or power or entity manifest in this jagat
> will have to fall in to the 'jurisdiction' of one or the other of the 33
> types of devata-s referred to in the veda.
>
> Although these are upAsya as far as Vedanta is concerned, I was assuming
> there would be more details in the veda pUrva bhAga.
>
> What is the moola reference text for the list of adhidaivika devatAs
> mentioned in the tattva bodha treatise? It looks like a collection derived
> from multiple original vedic  mantras or perhaps their derivatives such as
> the shrauta and grihya sutra meemAmsA texts.
>
> Thank you also to Subbuji for the vedic reference listing out sequentially
> many of the devatAs and their adhibhautika correlates. I especially noted
> Vishnu is mentioned somewhat differently in this mantra as parvata devatA
> and yama as prithvi devatA as in " यमः पृथिव्या"  वायुर् अन्तरिक्षस्य
> सूर्यो दिवश् चन्द्रमा नक्षत्राणाम् बृहस्पतिर् ब्रह्मणो मित्रः सत्यानां
> वरुणो ऽपाꣳ समुद्रः स्रोत्यानाम् अन्नꣳ साम्राज्यानाम् अधिपति तन् मावतु सोम
> ओषधीनाꣳ सविता प्रसवानाꣳ* रुद्रः पशूनां त्वष्टा रूपाणां "विष्णुः
> पर्वतानाम्"*
>
> Om
>
> Raghav
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Mar, 2020, 7:11 PM H S Chandramouli, <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Namaste Raghav Ji,
>>
>> Reg  << 1. Can we talk of there being adhiSThAna devatAs for other
>> entities
>> encountered in vyavahAra?. Such as planet earth as a whole (prithvI devatA
>> surely), hills and mountains (maybe himavAn or some parvata devatA?),
>> viral
>> diseases such as small pox, herpes zoster, nCov-19 etc., (maybe various
>> female devata-s govern their arising and spreading as per the beliefs in
>> vogue in indian folk traditions?)>>,
>>
>> There is an elaborate discussion on Devatas in BUB 3-9-1 to 3-9-18. Also
>> BSB 1-3-26 to 1-3-33. Following is based on my broad understanding of the
>> same.
>>
>> All aspects of Creation, covering adhyAtmika/adhibhautika/adhidaivika,
>> are governed by adhiSThAna DevatAs. Though their number is countless, they
>> are categorized into and considered as manifestations of thirty three
>> entities, namely eight Vasus, eleven Rudras, twelve  AdityAs, Indra and
>> Prajapathi. This number is further compressed successively to
>> six,three,two,one and a half, and one.
>>
>> Details concerning these 33/6/3/2/1.5/1 are covered in BUB referred
>> above. You may like to refer to the Bhashya itself for details. The purpose
>> of the discussion therein is not so much from the point of view of listing
>> their roles, but rather from the point of view of upAsana. As you know,
>> details concerning Creation per se is not given any importance in the
>> Upanishads. Its importance is mostly from the standpoint of upAsana.
>>
>>  Reg  << 2. What about devatA-s for modern "discoveries" such as the
>> power of
>> gravity which is such a huge cosmic determinant of the way things are in
>> this physical universe? Is there an adhidaivika aspect viz., a devata for
>> gravity? >>,
>>
>> Surely yes. In fact the adhiSThAna devatA for apAna vAyu at the
>> adhyAtmika level is Vishvasrushta as given in Laghu Vasudeva Mananam.The
>> Devata for power of gravity is considered to be the same at the
>> adhibhautika level though I do not recollect right now where I had come
>> across this. The function of apAna vAyu is to " force down ".
>>
>> Reg  << 3.  If we examine the case of cosmic laws that govern the
>> energetic functioning of all stars, then the Sun itself is just a small
>> Star, one among billions. So can we assert that this vedic devatA revealed
>> as "sUrya" is the wielder of the samaShTi power behind all stars which
>> makes them function using fusion etc., the way they do, not only our Sun?
>> >>,
>>
>> I think a reference to BUB I have mentioned above should clarify this.
>>
>> It may be worthwhile emphasizing once again what I have stated above,
>> namely details concerning Creation per se is not given any importance in
>> the Upanishads. Its importance is mostly from the standpoint of upAsana.
>>
>>  Regards
>>
>>
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