[Advaita-l] Fwd: Fwd: Omnipresence

Raghav Kumar Dwivedula raghavkumar00 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 29 03:40:53 EDT 2020


You did not.

 It was merely an example to show how dvaita arguments privileging a
particular form of Brahman over others, are not tenable.




On Wed, 29 Jul, 2020, 11:35 AM Kaushik Chevendra via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Where have I denied ganapathys supremacy sir?
>
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> From: Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <
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> Date: Wed 29 Jul, 2020, 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Fwd: Omnipresence
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> Cc: Raghav Kumar Dwivedula <raghavkumar00 at gmail.com>
>
>
> > Namaste Kaushik
> > Shruti (Veda) has clear passages about Sri Ganapati of Ganesha in the
> > Ganapaty-atharva-shIrshOpaniShad such as
> >
> > त्वमेव प्रत्यक्षं तत्त्वमसि ।
> > त्वमेव केवलं कर्ताऽसि ।
> > त्वमेव केवलं धर्ताऽसि ।
> > त्वमेव केवलं हर्ताऽसि ।
> > त्वमेव सर्वं खल्विदं ब्रह्मासि ।
> > त्वं साक्षादात्माऽसि नित्यम् ॥२॥
> > Tvam-Eva Pratyakssam Tattvam-Asi |
> > Tvam-Eva Kevalam Kartaa-[A]si |
> > Tvam-Eva Kevalam Dhartaa-[A]si |
> > Tvam-Eva Kevalam Hartaa-[A]si |
> > Tvam-Eva Sarvam Khalv[u]-Idam Brahma-Asi |
> > Tvam Saakssaad-Aatmaa-[A]si Nityam ||2||
> >
> > Meaning:
> > 2.1: (O Ganapati) You indeed are the visible Tattvam (Conscious Essence
> > underlying everything),
> > 2.2: (O Ganapati) You indeed are the *only* Creator (Karta) (by Whose
> > Power the Universe is Created),
> > 2.3: (O Ganapati) You indeed are the *only* Sustainer (Dharta) (by Whose
> > Power the Universe is Sustained),
> > 2.4: (O Ganapati) You indeed are the *only* Destroyer (Harta) (by Whose
> > Power the Universe is finally Dissolved in its Conscious Essence),
> > 2.5: (O Ganapati) You indeed are All This (The Universe); You verily are
> > the Brahman (giving Consciousness to All),
> > 2.6: (O Ganapati) You are the visible Atman, the Eternal (underlying
> > Reality),
> >
> > सर्वं जगदिदं त्वत्तो जायते ।
> > सर्वं जगदिदं त्वत्तस्तिष्ठति ।
> > सर्वं जगदिदं त्वयि लयमेष्यति ।
> > सर्वं जगदिदं त्वयि प्रत्येति ।
> > Sarvam Jagad-Idam Tvatto Jaayate |
> > Sarvam Jagad-Idam Tvattas-Tisstthati |
> > Sarvam Jagad-Idam Tvayi Layamessyati |
> > Sarvam Jagad-Idam Tvayi Pratyeti |
> > : The Entire Universe has Manifested (Born) from You
> > 6.2: The Entire Universe is Sustained by Your Power
> > 6.3: The Entire Universe will Dissolve in You
> > 6.4: The Entire Universe will thus finally Return to You
> >
> > It's easy to logically reconcile all such verses praising Sri Ganapati as
> > him from whom this entire creation has arisen etc., As the *only* kartA,
> > the *only* dhartA etc of the Universe only from an advaitic perspective
> as
> > taught by Sri Shankara bhagavatpAda. Otherwise we have to do a lot of
> text
> > torturing to accommodate verses like from these. The dvaita
> interpretations
> > cannot explain how Ganapati (who is praised in the later part of that
> very
> > upaniShad in its brAhmaNa portion as the usual devata worshipped on
> > ganesha-chaturthi, with shruti words like lambOdara, ekadanta etc. ruling
> > out any far fetched meaning of the word Ganapati) and he is the only
> kartA.
> >
> > Om
> >
> > P.S. the word shruti-viruddha means "opposed to or contradictory to
> > shruti' - you had asked the meaning of this word somewhere earlier
> >
> >
> >
> >
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