[Advaita-l] Something Shankara alone can dare to say....

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Tue Jun 26 10:11:52 EDT 2018


On Tue, 26 Jun 2018, 18:33 Kalyan, <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com> wrote:

> //Has anyone else said that 'the Lord's body is subject to beginning *and
> perishing*?//
>
> It is mentioned by Arjuna in the Mahabharata.
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> http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m16/m16008.htm
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> (Arjuna said, ‘He whose complexion was like that of a (newly-risen) cloud,
> he whose eyes were like a pair of large lotus petals, Krishna, has, with
> Rama, ***cast off his body*** and ascended to Heaven. )
>

This is already known and someone has pointed to this in this thread or an
earlier one on a related topic. This is in support of Shankara. I meant any
other Acharya.

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> There is therefore nothing special in what Shankara is saying.
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> Having said that, I do not remember anyone talking of the deaths of
> varAha, narasimha or vAmana.
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> On Tuesday, June 26, 2018, 6:15:29 PM GMT+5:30, V Subrahmanian <
> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:
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> 2018-06-26 18:10 GMT+05:30 Kalyan via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>:
>
> //Shankara says:  बहूनि मे मम व्यतीतानि अतिक्रान्तानि जन्मानि तव च हे
> अर्जुन ।
> [Many births of mine have gone by.]
>
> This is something Shankara alone will dare to say which is blasphemy for
> others. //
> This is something which even Ramanuja says.
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>
> You must read that with the other verse I have cited with the Bhashyam.
> Has anyone else said that 'the Lord's body is subject to beginning *and
> perishing*?
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>
> vs
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> There is nothing special here since Krishna himself says that many of his
> births have gone by.
> Sanskrit Commentary By Sri Ramanuja
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> ।।4.5।।श्रीभगवानुवाच अनेन जन्मनः सत्यत्वम् उक्तम्बहूनि मे व्यतीतानि
> जन्मानि इति वचनात् तव च इति दृष्टान्ततया उपादानाच्च।आत्मनः अवतारप्रकारं
> देहयाथात्म्यं जन्महेतुं च आह
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> English Translation of Ramanuja's Sanskrit Commentary By Swami Adidevananda
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> 4.5 The Lord said By this, the ***reality of the Lord's birth*** is
> declared in the sentence, ***'Many births of Mine have passed.' 'So is it
> with you' ***is added by way of illustration. The mode of incarnation, the
> reality of His body and the cause of His birth are explained in the
> following verse.
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