[Advaita-l] The Vibhutis of Brahman are non-different from Brahman

[Srinath Vedagarbha]

Found one more quote regarding what Shankara has to say on the form (rUpa)
of this jagat....

In BSB (II.1.14), Sri Shankara says "prAk brahmAtmatvadarshanAt
vishayAdi-prapanchO vyavasthitaroopO bhavati |"
(Prior to the realization of the identity of Atman with Brahman, the world
of senses and other things have their definite form.)

So, the original poster's paxa (also the Sri.Paddy Rao's in FB) is that
Brahman has sarva-rUpa is not exactly taatvIka but real "tentatively" till
dawn of knowledge.

/sv





On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 9:31 AM Srinath Vedagarbha <svedagarbha at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste,
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> On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 8:56 AM H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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>> Namaste.
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>> Your own translation of Sri Anandagiri Acharya commentary reads as below.
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>> Quote  << This is the lakshyartha (as
>> distinct from the vaachyartha) of Brahman, Tat.>>.
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>> Meditation as suggested could lead to parOksha jnAna of “ tat “. He does
>> not mention it leads to jnAna as in advaita sidhanta. Meaning of terms
>> “tvam “ and “asi “ should also be understood for jnAna.
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> I agree with you here. Saying vibhUti rUpa-s are lakshyArtha (for upAsana
> or other purpose) is not same as holding Brahman has all those vibhUti
> rUpa-s in actuality.
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> Shankara's paxa on Cosmogony/Cosmology needs to be understood
> wholistically from all of his writings. In the context of explaining the
> origin and creation of the universe, he does say that all this originated
> from Brahman. In that sense, the world is Brahman and His vibhUti rupA-s.
> But from Shankara's analysis of the dream and waking states based on
> statements from the shruti shows Shankara's position regarding the objects
> and their names/forms are not real. In this sense, the world is an illusion.
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> Just going by one part of Shankara's position, one cannot say Shankara is
> a realist. Shankara has clearly said that the waking state is akin to the
> dream state "svapne yadvat- prabodhe" (up.sA.) and further says,
> "avidyAprabhavaM sarvam-asat-tasmAdidaM jagat.h" (all this world originates
> from avidyA, ignorance, and is therefore unreal, upadesha sAhasrI,
> 2.17.20). Elsewhere (in the samanvayAdhikaraNa sUtra bhAshya) he declares
> embodiedness is due to a misconception (sasharIrasya mithyAjnAna
> nimittatvAt).
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> So, in my opinion, the original poster (and others agree with him) are
> using the argument based on one part of Shankara's siddhAnta, which is not
> correct.
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