[Advaita-l] Taattvika Abheda and vyavaharika bheda in Dvaita and Advaita

Raghav Kumar Dwivedula raghavkumar00 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 17 13:50:47 EDT 2018


Namaste
It was said

-- in Dvaita such various
forms of the Lord are sattya (even though the svarUpa of such forms is One
and only)

This implies
1. The Lord has various 'forms'
2. There is a certain 'svarUpa' of these very 'forms' which is 'One' only .
3. That svarUpa of the Lord cannot be one more (i.e., yet another )
specific 'form' since all forms are already covered in statement 1.
4 This implies that the svarUpa has got to be 'formless' .

We can extend the 4 above sentences to other aspects like  'attributes'
instead of forms .

The svarUpa of the Lord who appears in all various forms and is One only
cannot be one more particular form - His svarUpa is formless .

Om



On Tue 17 Jul, 2018, 10:49 PM Srinath Vedagarbha via Advaita-l, <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 11:31 AM V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > You are unaware that Advaita accepts Shakti for Brahman for otherwise
> > Brahman is incapable of doing anything. BSB 1.4.3:
> >
> >
> You are forgetting such admittance is only a upAya to explain this creation
> and not a real admittance. You cannot argue based on such  interim
> position. It is an vyabhichAra in the vAda.
>
>
>
> > Satya bheda is denied by Madhva across bhagavadrupas. He has said:
> > accepting abheda and bheda will lead to andha tamas.
> >
>
> You are missing the point. What is being denied is seeing bhEda in
> shkati/vIrya/jnyAna between bhagavat rUpas. This is what Iskonites does by
> saying Krishna is superior to Narayana and other forms etc.. Madhva does
> not deny the very presence of these avataara rUpas and the difference
> between various qualities exhibited in those rUpas. For example -- some
> rUpas exhibits pure bala kArya (such as matsya narasimAdi rUpas), some
> other rUpas exhibits jnyAna kaarya (such vyAsa kapilAdi rupas), yet in some
> other KrishnAdi rupAs both types are exhibited. What is being denied is one
> should not see lack of jnAna in NarashimAdi rUpa and lack of bala in
> vyasAdi rUpas etc.
>
> /sv
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