[Advaita-l] Question about Avaccheda vada

[Aditya Kumar]

Thanks for both the references Subrahmanianji. It seems like contemporary Advaita has had a lot of influence from alien schools. Vallabhacharyas school is far far away from Shankaras. As for Chinmayananda, he was a classic neo vedantin with a cult of his own. Hence it is safe to stick to Shankaras works and early Vedantins. 

Think there is ample evidence in BG for Ishwaras nature. One thing is sure that Gunas no matter how sattvic are seen as doshas. 

Very early on Krishna says traigunyo vishaya veda, nistraigunyo bhavArjuna.
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On Fri, 9/2/18, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Question about Avaccheda vada
 To: "Aditya Kumar" <kumaraditya22 at yahoo.com>
 Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "H S Chandramouli" <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
 Date: Friday, 9 February, 2018, 9:33 PM
 
 Here is
 another reference, in Hindi, on the BG 15.17, by Swami
 Chinmayananda:
 
 
 एक ही
 सर्वगत आकाश घट और मठ इन
 दो उपाधियों से
 अवच्छिन्न होकर घटाकाश
 और मठाकाश के रूप में
 प्रतीत होता है। यहाँ
 यह स्पष्ट है कि यह कोई
 तीन आकाश घटाकाश?
 मठाकाश और महाकाश नहीं
 बन गये हैं। घट और मठ की
 उपाधियों से ध्यान दूर
 कर लें तो ज्ञात होता कि
 वस्तुत आकाश एक ही
 है।इसी प्रकार? उत्तम
 पुरुष ही दृश्य और
 दृष्टा के रूप में क्षर
 और अक्षर पुरुष कहलाता
 है। परन्तु उपाधियों से
 विवर्जित हुआ वह
 परमात्मा ही है।अगले
 श्लोक में? भगवान्
 श्रीकृष्ण पुरुषोत्तम
 शब्द की व्युत्पत्ति
 दर्शाकर यह बताते हैं
 कि वे किस प्रकार परम
 ब्रह्म स्वरूप हैं
 
 
 
 The
 concept is clear enough. The three AkAshas are clearly
 explained. 
 2018-02-10 2:57 GMT+05:30 V
 Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>:
 On a search, this reference is found:
 
 
 Vedantaratnamañjusascans.library.utoronto.ca/pdf/
 9/16/.../vedantaratnama00puru_ bw.pdfतमात्मस्थं
 येऽनुपशयन्ति
 धीरास्तेषां शान्तिः
 शाश्वती.
 नेतरेषामू”इखादिकठवल्लीश्रुतिभ्
 य एकार्थत्वात् । ननु
 स्यादितदविद्याब्रह्मणेोारुपाधि
 विम्बयोनिरवयवत्वनीरु-.
 पत्वाभ्यां
 प्रतिविम्बभावाऽनुपपत्तिः
 ।
 किन्त्वविद्यावच्छिन्नमन्तः-.
 करणावच्छिन्ने वा
 ब्रह्म
 प्रसगात्मशब्दाभिधेयम्
 । यथा घटाव-.
 वच्छिन्नाकाशस्यमठाकाशेन भेदस्
 तस्य चानवच्छिन्नेन
 महाका-.
 शेनाभिदस्तथाऽन्तःकरणाऽवच्छिन्
 नस्य
 व्यष्टिरूपजीविस्याविद्याव-.
 च्छिन्नेन
 समष्ट्रिरूपेण
 भेदस्तस्य च ...
 
 
 
 The
 work is a Vallabhacharya (shuddhAdvaita) book.  The above
 lines appear to be a depiction of Advaita. We see three
 distinct entities there:
 Jiva -  individual called
 'vyashTi' - with mind as the limiting adjunct -
 compared to GhaTAkAsha
 Ishvara - samaShTi  -
 maThAkAsha
 Brahman -
 mahAkAsha
 The first
 two are different from each other but non-different from the
 third.  This is what I could gather from the above partial
 text. If anyone downloads the work and searches the words
 with patience, one can know whether it is a depiction of
 Advaita indeed. Even if it is not, we have the concept of
 Ishwara, samaShTi, being shown as maThAkAsha.
 regardssubbu 
  
 On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at
 11:14 PM, Aditya Kumar <kumaraditya22 at yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 This is
 an interesting thread : lists.advaita-vedanta.org/arch
 ives/advaita-l/2012-March/0311 24.html
 
 
 
 Here it is said that ishwara has no guna vishesha or guna
 sambandha because it is contrary to ishwaratva.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 On Fri, 9/2/18, Aditya Kumar <kumaraditya22 at yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Question about Avaccheda vada
 
  To: "Aditya Kumar" <kumaraditya22 at yahoo.com>,
 "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
 
  Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita
 Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedan
 ta.org>, "H S Chandramouli" <hschandramouli at gmail.com>
 
  Date: Friday, 9 February, 2018, 5:20 PM
 
 
 
  Namaste,
 
 
 
  Is there para maya and apara maya. I
 
  gathered this from another thread in this forum.
 Apparently
 
  trigunatmika maya is apara maya and this includes
 sattva
 
  guna. This is anarthakari and samsara bandhanatmika.