[Advaita-l] The 'Light of Consciousness'.

kuntimaddi sadananda kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 25 09:28:18 EST 2018


PraNAms
Dream experience comes under internal perceptions where sense waking world sense input is not there. 
What one experiences is based on the memory stored in the mind from past experiences with intermixing of those. The dream world is created not sequentially but simultaneously. Mandukya uses a parallel statement - eknona vimshati mukaH - 19 gateways through which the world is experienced, where the BMI of the waker jeeva or dreamer jeeva experiencing their external world. 
The dream is not a dream for a dreamer while in the dream. 
Hence similar  pramaanas can operate for the parallel jeevas - One can have in the dream the hare with horns since it is the waker's mind that can create from the memory of hares and horns and the dreamer jeeva does not find it as strange. There also dreamer jeeva has mind different from the mind of the tiger that is chasing him. The actions and the thoughts are motivated by the dreamer's karmedriyas and jnaanedriyas. The thought that arises in the mind of the dreamer jeeva is illumined by the light of consciousness, just similar to what happens in the waking world. That it was different and not real is the only conclusion of the waker and not a dreamer. 
Hence we can have sunlight, moonlight etc just as in the waking world but they are unreal only from the point of the waker and not from the point of the dreamer.
Goudapaada vaitatya prakarana centers on this to prove that two worlds are similar and unreal. 
The one who has awakened to the paaramaarthika state, for him even the waking world is unreal. 
The descriptions are parallel as Madukya puts it. 
Just my 2c.
Hari Om!Sadananda

 

   On Sunday, December 23, 2018, 2:59:48 PM GMT+5:30, Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote: 
 
 

The dream experience demonstrates the fact that the external object and
extrnal sources of light are not essential for our experience of 'Light'.
(AtmA is svayam-jyotiH)


You incidentally mentioned the following in your post viz., - it's just
incidental but was reminded of a humourous video. You wrote-

"When I am sitting in a dark room, if you ask me if there is a chair in the
room, I say, I do not know, since I cannot see it. The chair may be there
or may not be there. The probability for the existence or its non-existence
is 50 percent since there are only two choices."

It appears there is a mix up in the above para between possibilities (of
which there are two viz., either the chair is there or not there ) with
probabilities (which will have to be weighted based on specifics). We
cannot say that all possibilities are equally probable and say it's 50 per
cent for each possibility. For example, a wrong argument would be to say -
"there are three possibilities when you toss a coin - heads or tails or 'it
lands on its edge'. So the probability of landing on its edge is 33%."

There is a humourous video related to this.

https://youtu.be/7y4T7DnSeo0

Om


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