[Advaita-l] Chanting Gayatri overseas
kalyan_kg at yahoo.com
Sat Oct 7 10:47:46 EDT 2017
//Simple question: Is the Jagadguru of Sringeri wrong in blessing the SVBF
initiative in Pennsylvania?
Answer: I bipin chauhan on behalf of Eternal Law declared it totally wrong.//
Namaste Shri Chauhanji
I salute you. You have the courage to call a spade as a spade. That too in a forum where there are many diehard followers of Sringeri maTha. Now, let us brace for the backlash. :)
On Sat, 10/7/17, कुवँर बिपिन चौहान <bipinchauhan7 at gmail.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Chanting Gayatri overseas
To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Cc: "Raghav Kumar Dwivedula" <raghavkumar00 at gmail.com>, "V Subrahmanian" <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>, "Kalyan" <kalyan_kg at yahoo.com>, "Vēdānta Study Group" <vedant.study at gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, October 7, 2017, 2:35 PM
Please desh, kaal, stithi ke pare hai paralukik yeh purntah
galat hai ki gayatri jambudwip se bahar uccahran kari jaye.
Tark sansarik mat hai anytha sab neti neti hai.
Yeh spasht hai ki gayatri ji gupt hain
My guru batuk shastri (Brahmnal, Varanasi) always says
it's next to impossible we go against shastr on anyway.
Simple question: Is the Jagadguru of Sringeri wrong in
blessing the SVBF initiative in Pennsylvania?
Answer: I bipin chauhan on behalf of Eternal Law declared it
For this my Guru ke Guru Swami Karpatri fight/ shastrath
with madan mohan malviya that Widow marriage is not possible
the fool vaishya kul empire goenka say as per shastr Swami
Karpatri ji right but malviya is also not wrong due to desh
kal stithi shloka of gita ji.
I know Jagadguru Sri Bharati Tirtha Mahaswamiji but
ignorance or will of Brahman all this happen because Bharat
unable to follow
from long ago.
On 7 October 2017 at
10:23, Raghav Kumar Dwivedula via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
an excellent bhAShya reference, Subbu ji, on how dharma
definitely be reinterpreted by shiShTa-s in keeping with the
and kAla. No doubt it's not a licence to say, anything
goes. We have to
cautiously move on.
But to say that all NRI brahmins are patita-s as long as
they are based
abroad seems untenable.
On 07-Oct-2017 8:20 AM, "V Subrahmanian via
advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> On Sat, Oct 7, 2017 at 1:52 AM, Vēdānta Study Group
via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> > Harih Om
> > Dharma (and its interpretation) evolves through
> Shankara, in his Brahma sutra bhashya ३.१.२५
> यस्मिन्देशे काले
निमित्ते च यो
धर्मोऽनुष्ठीयते, स एव
भवति ; तेन न
कस्यचिदस्ति । - Dharma is place-time
specific and hence the
> scripture is the best source to decide what is dharma
and what is not.
> And in innumerable places Shankara has stated that
śiṣṭāchāra, conduct of
> the noble, as a source of Dharma/adharma. In fact the
> itself says: Follow those who are wedded to Dharma, in
deciding what course
> of action you have to take, while in doubt, etc.
> While the śiṣṭa-s may not encourage people going
abroad, yet they have
> continued to bless those who live abroad, for whatever
reasons. I have
> heard the earlier Jagadguru would bless those who seek
his blessings while
> a boy is going abroad for higher studies: 'My
blessings are there on this
> condition: Study there and return to our Land and serve
here.' Now, over
> the years we have huge settlements abroad who seek to
follow dharma. In
> fact I came across at least one person, who has studied
the entire Rg Veda
> and is now teaching people even in India, through Skype
from the US. There
> are sincere seekers who have said 'the quite,
serene atmosphere there is
> very conducive to dhyāna, contemplation, etc.'
This is what is sought by
> anyone who is a seeker, ultimately.
> Above all, we have to also remember this: Between
niyama (observances) and
> yama (fundamental moral conduct), the latter takes
precedence over the
> former in spiritual progress and attainment. Swami
Vidyaranya in the
> Jivanmuktiviveka has given references for this rule. He
also points out
> cases of extremity where 'a certain person looked
for a pure place all over
> the world to conduct his religious practice and could
not find a single
> one'. What is important above all is for a person
to value ahimsā, satyam,
> akrodha, brahmacharya and non-stealing. These are the
five yama-s that are
> crucial for spiritual evolvement. Niyama-s are there to
support these in
> the long run. They are not to be belittled either. An
> balanced, view is what is moderate.
> > What is stated in the
> > Brhadaranyaka upanishad may be contextual to the
social situation then.
> > These boundaries can be widened as contemporary
sampradayavits see fit.
> > As someone correctly points out, even the
Jagadguru of Sringeri has
> > the SVBF mandir to be set up in Pennsylvania.
Surely these Acharyas have
> > better understanding of the commentaries and how
to make them applicable
> > present times. Personally, I don't see
ourselves fit to form a universal
> > opinion for Hindus to follow, but certainly these
teachers are in a
> > position to do so, and they have. So far I have
not seen any counter to
> > this point
> > Namaste,
> > Prashant
> > On 6 October 2017 at 11:14, Kalyan via Advaita-l
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-
> > > I am surprised that in this entire discussion
no one has quoted the
> > > Brihadaranyaka upanishad so far.
> > >
> > > Br.Up.1.3.10 advises against foreign travel.
Shankara interprets it in
> > the
> > > same way.
> > >
> > > Travel should be confined to lands inhabited
by people possessing Vedic
> > > knowledge - this is the gist.
> > >
> > > Thus, there is Shruti prohibition against
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Kalyan
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