[Advaita-l] Who is Ishwara? He is NARAYANA only. Beautiful and soothing Narayana Bhajan

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Tue May 23 22:22:14 EDT 2017

The 'question' Kalyan is posing has been answered many times over in this
list and also in the BVP. His inability to comprehend the answers, he is
transferring to others as their inability to answer. It is clear that he
has an agenda: to discredit Advaita and Shankara. A true jijnasu will not
display this kind of behavior. It is best he is ignored.


On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 6:18 AM, Praveen R. Bhat via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste Kalyanji,
> On Sun, May 21, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Kalyan via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> > Isn't the nirguNa nirvishesha Atman itself the biggest and only ignoramus
> > in advaita? It beats me how such an Atman, wallowing in ignorance, can be
> > described as param jyoti.
> >
> ​If the Atman is nirguNa nirvishesha, how can he have the attribute of
> ignorance?​
> Interestingly, Krishna uses the word Ishvara in BG 15.8
>>> शरीरं यदवाप्नोति यच्चाप्युत्क्रामतीश्वरः । गृहीत्वैतानि संयाति
> वायुर्गन्धानिवाशयात् ॥
> ​​
> f
> ​or​
> one who attains another body, having departed from one! I wonder who this
> Ishvara is for you
> ​ and why.​
> Later in your mails, you go on to assert that you asked a simple question,
> I would like to ask you an even simpler one. What is your understanding of
> the term mithyA? Otherwise, I see that after anyone gives any reference or
> answers, you simply shirk off by saying something to the effect of "I'm not
> convinced" or "it doesn't answer my question". That is quite easy for
> everyone else to do as well that "your question is not a question at all".
> So I suggest you explain what you understand by the word mithyA in contrast
> to sat and asat, if you're really interested to get an answer to the
> question you posed.
> Kind rgds,
> --Praveen R. Bhat
> /* येनेदं सर्वं विजानाति, तं केन विजानीयात्। Through what should one know
> That owing to which all this is known! [Br.Up. 4.5.15] */​
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