[Advaita-l] Shaivism and Vedic Hinduism

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste

Panchayatana Puja has all five gods Siva, Vishnu, Sakti, Ganesha and
Surya. But Brahmins normally have to do Siva Panchayatana Puja with
Siva in the middle and others around Siva. This means Siva  is the
central god and other gods are serving Him. Why is this? Because Siva
is the only god with both Saguna and Nirguna aspects according to Siva
Purana. Nirguna is higher than Saguna.



On Fri, Jan 6, 2017 at 8:25 AM, Siva Senani Nori <sivasenani at yahoo.com> wrote:
> What about those Brahmins who have saalagraama?
>
> यथान्तरं न पश्यामि तथा मे स्वस्तिरायुषी
>
> Regards
> N Siva Senani
>
> On Thu, 5 Jan, 2017 at 11:05 p.m., Venkatesh Murthy via Advaita-l
> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> Namaste
>
> How is it possible to say Shaivism is different from Brahminical
> religion when Satarudriya is from Vedas only? It is a useless
> argument.
>
> As a matter of fact in Gujarat and other places Vaishnavas are not
> considered Brahmins. Only Shiva worshippers are Brahmins. Well known
> fact is Brahmins must worship Siva and Kshatriyas Vishnu. Vaishyas are
> Devi Upasakas and Sudras have to worship Ganesha.
>
> In Pooja and other matters Vaidika and Agama methods are combined.
> This is the way it is today. Nobody in Brahmin tradition is doing pure
> 100% Vaidika or 100% Agama worship. Non Brahmins must not do Vaidika
> worship but always Agama or Puranokta worship only. Ladies also can do
> Puranokta worship with Pauranika Mantras. They should not say Gayatri
> Mantras and Vedic Mantras like some ladies are doing. It is wrong.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:09 PM, Santosh Rao via Advaita-l
> <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>> Namaskara,
>>
>> Is there a difference between "vaidika dharma" and the Shaiva sects?
>>
>> From some reading it seems the prevalent academic opinion is that Shaivism
>> and Shiva worship in general was largely separate from the Brahminical
>> religion for a large period of history before some coalescing between the
>> two occurred. Also, while Vaishnavism seems to be heavily tied into this
>> "Brahmanism," Shaivism seems to be less so. Is there a reason for this, or
>> is there a discrepancy between tradition and the academic view?
>>
>> Also, how does the Smarta tradition view the Shaiva agamas? Are they
>> accepted as authoritative at all? Is there a general view of Shaivas
>> regarding Vedas and Upanishads, Puranas, etc; or does it vary from sect to
>> sect? Are there any Shaiva sects that could correctly be labelled as
>> "non-vedic?"
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Santosh
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