[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Works of Sri Vidyashankara
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Tue Jan 3 03:20:48 CST 2017
Namaste Sri Vidyasankar,
Thanks for your comments. The reference to devatA mArga in the gIta bhAshya
does address Prof. Karmarkar's comment.
The common wording between the adhyAsa and kshetrajna bhAshyas is also
noteworthy. Thanks for pointing out.
Another recurring theme that comes to mind is the "whose is avidya"
discussion that occurs in the gIta (13.2), BrihadAraNyaka (4.1.6) and sUtra
bhAshyas (4.1.3). Prof Ingalls has written a paper on this very topic.
On 3 Jan 2017 2:10 a.m., "Vidyasankar Sundaresan" <svidyasankar at gmail.com>
Dear Sri Venkataraghavan,
Thank you for the detailed analysis of the points raised by Karmarkar's
For the last point in your list, please note that the gItAbhAshya 8th
chapter says, devatA eva mArgabhUtA iti sthito (a)nyatra. Thus, the author
is here making a reference to another work where the devayAna and pitRyAna
are discussed. That work has got to be the brahmasUtra bhAshya or one of
the upanishad bhAshyas.
And I would also like to draw attention to the wording used in the kshetra
kshetrajna yoga chapter, which mirrors that of the adhyAsabhAshya -
yushmadasmad pratyaya, tamaHprakASavad viruddha, etc.
As such, my considered view is that no careful or impartial scholar can
ever conclude that the gItAbhAshya could have been written by someone else!
On Jan 3, 2017 5:26 AM, "Venkatraghavan S via Advaita-l" <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> Dear all,
> Firstly, here is wishing everyone a very happy new year.
> Good news. I have managed to find the ABORI edition where Prof. Karmarkar's
> paper on the authorship of the Gita was published. Here is the link
> I was initially reluctant from sharing my thoughts on the paper with the
> group as I am in no way to qualified to question the erudite Professor, but
> I am doing so having consulted with some esteemed list members, who thought
> this may be of interest to a broader group. At the outset, I want to
> clarify that no disrespect whatsoever is intended to the Professor or his
> Having read the paper, I am sorry to say that I do not find the objections
> to Shankara's authorship of the gIta bhAshya convincing at all. I have
> tried to present the summary conclusions of Prof. Karmarkar and my replies
> 1) One of Prof. Karmarkar's objections is that in the introductory portion
> of the Gita bhAshya, the whole description of Ishvara as NArAyaNa, VishNu,
> etc., the reference to the six-fold jnAna-aishvarya shakti of Ishvara and
> vaishNavIm svAm mAyAm, do not appear quite in line with Shankara as an
> advaitin. The passage, he says, looks more apt in the mouth of a
> Vaishnavite or some follower of the Bhakti school proper.
> This does not seem to take into account the practice of advaita vedAnta at
> all - bhakti is very much accepted within the sphere of advaita practice
> and is viewed as a means for chitta shuddhi which is a necessary
> pre-requisite for the gain of advaita jnAna. The acknowledgment of Vishnu
> as Bhagavan occurs in the Brahma sUtra bhAshya itself.
> 2) Prof Karmarkar goes on to say that Shankara scarcely refers to VedavyAsa
> as Bhagavan and sarvajna in the Brahma sUtra bhAshya but the author of the
> gIta bhAshya does so. However, he does not provide the number of instances
> where VedavyAsa is referred to as sarvajna BhagavAn in the gIta bhAshya vs
> the sUtra bhAshya to prove his point - now, if the argument was based on
> the usage of the epithet in the gIta bhAshya and the scarcity of its usage
> in the sUtra bhAshya, then it would be important to justify that argument
> with statistics. Prof. Karmarkar fails to do so.
> From my search, the usage of the epithet "Bhagavan" when applied to
> VedavyAsa appears twice in the gIta bhAshya - once in the introduction
> section (which is referred to by Prof. Karmarkar) and once in the bhAshya
> for sloka 2.21 (which is not). In comparison, the number of occasions the
> sUtrakAra is referred to as BhagavAn / Bhagavata in sUtra bhAshya is thrice
> by my count (once in BS 1.1.1 when Shankara calls the sUtrakAra as
> "भगवान्सूत्रकारः", once in BS 3.4.8 as "भगवतो बादरायणस्य" and once in
> 4.4.21 as "भगवान्बादरायण आचार्यः".) Prof. Karmarkar fails to mention the
> other two occurrences in the sUtra bhAshya, and says that Shankara
> uses this epithet in relation to BAdarAyaNa only once - in 4.4.21. Even
> there he claims that, the use of Bhagavan is probably "an addition by some
> In fact, as we have seen, Shankara uses this epithet thrice in the sUtra
> bhAshya. One occurrence can be dismissed as the work of a copyist, but to
> explain away three instances is difficult. Therefore, Prof. Karmarkar's
> statement that "To Sankara, Upavarsa alone is Bhagavan proper" is unfounded
> my view. Shankara's reference to vedavyAsa as Bhagavan is not out of
> character, given what we see in the Brahma sUtra.
> 3) Prof. Karmarkar further states that the description of Ashvattha does
> not tally between the gIta and KaTha bhAshyas. He says "the most important
> point, however, is that 'अवाक्शाख:' is explained as
> 'स्वर्गनरकतिर्यक्प्रेतादिभि: शाखाभि:' " in the KaTha bhAshyam, whereas the
> same term is explained in Gita 15.1 as "अध:शाखं महदहङ्कारतन्मात्रादय: शाखा
> इवास्यधो भवन्तीति". Prof. Karmarkar says "It appears there can be no
> justification for such variation in the interpretations, if both the
> Bhasyas were by the same author".
> However, in the next verse Gita 15.2, while explaining the line
> प्रसृतास्तस्य शाखा" of the sloka, the author of the gIta bhAshya gives the
> meaning as "अधः मनुष्यादिभ्यो यावत् स्थावरम् ऊर्ध्वं च यावत् ब्रह्मणः
> विश्वसृजो धाम इत्येतदन्तं", which achieves the same meaning as the one
> given for the kaTha bhAshyam. Therefore, the difference in variations
> perceived by Prof. Karmarkar is because the explanation of the next gIta
> verse is not taken into account.
> 4) The Professor then says that the reference to जलसूर्यक दृष्टान्त in gIta
> bhAshya 15.7 is not relevant and that it is not in keeping with Shankara's
> tendencies, as he "usually uses सृगजल, रज्जुसर्प and उपाधि दृष्टान्तs".
> However, there is an important reason why Shankara gives this example in
> this sloka. This is one of the bhAshya portions where Shankara presents
> both the AbhAsa vAda and avaccheda vAda as acceptable prakriyas within
> advaita siddhAnta. Therefore, the usage of जलसूर्यक दृष्टान्त should be
> viewed in parallel with the usage of घटाद्युपाधिपरिच्छिन्नो घटाद्याकाशः
> immediately afterwards, as two alternative views of the jIva acceptable
> within advaita siddhAnta. To complain that Shankara never uses the जलसूर्यक
> दृष्टान्त is failing to appreciate the true reason for the usage.
> 5) Prof. Karmarkar points to sloka 13.12 's bhAshya that Shankara has split
> the word अनादिमत्परं occurring in the verse as अनादिमत् + परम् as opposed
> to अनादि + मत्परं which is Ramanuja's preference. Through this, he argues
> that the author of the shAnkara bhAshya did so in response to Ramanuja's
> commentary which must have preceded his. Therefore, Adi Shankara cannot
> have been the author of the gIta bhAshya.
> However, it is clear that the author of the gIta bhAshya is doing so in
> response to a commentary that is earlier than his (and not Ramanuja),
> because in the shAnkara bhAshya, the pUrvapaksha interpretation is
> described as अहं वासुदेवाख्या परा शक्तिर्यस्य तन्मत्परमिति. The pUrvapakshi
> is saying by matparam, what Krishna means is "Me, the one endowed with the
> highest power called paravAsudeva shakti". Shankar goes out of his way to
> name the shakti as वासुदेवाख्या परा शक्ति.
> Therefore, if the shAnkara gIta bhAshya had followerd RAmAnuja's, we
> would expect the specific name of the shakti to be present in RAmAnuja's
> bhAshya too. However, RAmAnuja does not specifically call this vAsudeva
> shakti, he simply says अहं परो यस्य तत् मत्परं. Therefore, this
> specificity must have existed in some other pAncarAtra bhAshya of the gIta
> that Shankara referred to when he wrote the gIta commentary.
> Further, vedAnta desika, in commenting on RAmAnuja's bhAshya, quotes
> Shankara's bhAshya in introducing the section where RAmAnuja talks about
> Brahman being endowed with guNas (बृहत्वगुणयोगि / स्वत: शरीरादिभि:
> परिच्छेदरहितं), with a view to refute Shankara's point that nirguNa Brahman
> is being referred to in this verse.
> Another point to be noted is that RAmAnuja translates sat and asat as kArya
> and kAraNa, which is the meaning that Anandagiri gives - which is a simpler
> interpretation of the sloka. Shankara could simply have used this meaning,
> instead he takes a different meaning - sat as existence and asat as
> non-existence. Prof. Karmarkar states this must be from RAmAnuja's Brahma
> sUtra bhAshya. He does acknowledge that it may be some other prior bhAshya
> that Shankara had access to, but states there is no evidence of such a
> Professor Daniel Ingalls, while remarking that BhAskara's commentary is
> vociferously, even caustically different from Shankara's on certain sUtras,
> also states that it is remarkably similar on several other sUtras. This
> leads him to conclude that there must be a vrittikAra, a proto-commentator
> which both of them have based their commentary on. This is in line with the
> traditional view too. In my view, this could be the same source from which
> RAmAnuja bases his brahma sUtra commentary too, explaining the similarity
> of language between the gIta bhAshya and RAmAnuja's sUtra bhAshya.
> 6) Prof. Karmarkar also complains that the author of the gIta bhAshya
> "ignores completely the first adhyAya of the Gita (46 slokas) and 10 slokas
> of the second Adhyaya" and that "this goes against Shankara's method of
> explanation" as "in the case of the various section of the Upanishads
> where even small introductory AkhyAyikas are introduced". It is
> unthinkable, he says that Shankara could have given only a very inadequate
> and short reference to the introductory portion of the Gita.
> a) Firstly neither Shankara has ignored the stated portion nor has he
> omitted giving an introduction to the gIta. In fact he has written an
> upodghAta bhAshya introducing the gIta, after which he separately
> summarises the verses that he has not commented upon, to present only the
> message that is relevant to that topic at hand. What is the point in
> writing page upon page commenting on which Kaurava and Pandava warrior blew
> which conch, etc when that is completely irrelevant to the central message
> of the Gita?
> b) Secondly, Shankara does have form in ignoring portions of text that are
> not of much relevance. For example, in the vaitathya prakaraNa of the
> mANDUkya kArika, Shankara ignores kArikas 2.20 to 2.27 in his commentary
> completely. Therefore, it would be incorrect to assert that Shankara
> comments on every word of every text for which he writes a bhAshya.
> c) Thirdly, the Professor remarks that some of the commentary of Shankara
> in the gIta bhAshya is puerile, and that he is stating the obvious in doing
> so. It appears that whatever the author of the gIta bhAshya does, he is
> damned in the eyes of the Professor. If Shankara comments on obvious
> passages where there is little room for commentary, the Professor remarks
> that the commentary is puerile. If Shankara then ignores descriptions of
> battle formation, names of warriors and their paraphernalia as irrelevant,
> the Professor says that Shankara is ignoring the text.
> 7) Finally, there are a few minor nits that the Professor picks on, such as
> Shankara not using the same name for the Gita in many places, or that he
> does not name the devayAna / pitryAna in Chapter 8's commentary, or that he
> sometimes refers to himself in the singular in the gIta bhAshya but at
> least in my view, these are not major flaws that would necessitate a
> conclusion questioning the authorship of the gIta itself.
> In light of the above, I believe that the objections of Professor
> Karmarkar's to Shankara's authorship are not very convincing.
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