[Advaita-l] ***UNCHECKED*** Re: Re: Re: Re: shankara speaking on behalf of or speaking to ??
vmurthy36 at gmail.com
Wed Dec 13 09:57:44 EST 2017
What about Apantaratamas like Vyasa and so on. They are Jeevanmuktas doing
some work for God. BSB has explained this. They may take births for doing
work of God. Then we cannot say they are not experiencing anything.
Sometimes they may get married and have children also. All this without
experiencing anything is not possible. But even though they are
experiencing the Phala they know it is not real. That is the difference. It
is like you are in a dream and you also know it is a dream.
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 2:46 PM, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:37 PM, H S Chandramouli <
> hschandramouli at gmail.com>
> > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 1:30 PM, V Subrahmanian <
> v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
> >> > wrote:
> >> << Unless it is experienced by that person as pain or pleasure, it is of
> >> no use in terming it a bhoga. Ramana had both kinds of experiences in
> >> abundance. >>,
> >> Did Sri Ramana Maharshi experience pain or pleasure ?? I do not think
> //*For the last 2 years of his life the Maharshi suffered from cancer and
> experienced great physical pain, but even towards the end he maintained the
> same tranquil poise and self-same radiant smile*. When he was suffering
> from cancer in the arm a disciple ran away crying because he could not bear
> to see his master in pain. Ramana only smiled and spoke to a disciple
> nearby. “Duraswami is crying because he thinks I am suffering agonies! My
> body is suffering but I am not suffering. When will he realise that I am
> not this body?”  <http://stuartperrin.com/about-ramana-maharshi/#ref>//
> //*Question:* Please tell us about Bhagavan’s forbearance of suffering
> during his cancer operations.
> *Sadhu **Om**:* Even at the time of his fourth operation, which was a very
> major one, Bhagavan refused to be given chloroform. The operation took a
> long time, and because of the profuse bleeding, it was very difficult for
> the doctors to dress the wound. Towards the end of the operation Bhagavan
> was talking to someone when the doctors informed him that the operation was
> ‘What! Is it over?’ asked Bhagavan.
> Someone then asked, ‘Bhagavan, did you not feel any pain?’
> Bhagavan replied, ‘Yes, there was pain, like a hundred chillies being
> ground in the wound, but even that pain is not apart from me.’//
> [Sadhu Om was a venerable seeker who spent a very long time with
> I have heard this said by others also.
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