[Advaita-l] How can prANa be Brahman?

Venkatraghavan S agnimile at gmail.com
Thu Sep 8 10:10:32 CDT 2016

Namaste Sri Chandramouliji,

Thanks for sharing. I agree with your comments.


On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 2:22 PM, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>

> Sri Ravi Kiran Ji and Sri Venkatraghavan Ji,
> Reg  << would be interested to hear if one, after having attained ekatva
> jnAna from
> Sruti shravanAdi sAdhana and later took recourse to Yogic samAdhi practices
> (why?) >>,  by Sri Ravi Kiran Ji
> and  << Yes. Knowledge that I am Brahman is enough, no separate
> experience is
> needed.>> by Sri Venkatraghavan Ji,
> I wanted to clarify on this earlier also, but somehow didn’t. As I had
> mentioned earlier, there can be  more  than one objective for a sAdhaka.
> One is “liberation from embodiment”. This is ensured by attaining
> ekatvajnAna. Second is “freedom from bondage”. This mainly concerns, in
> addition to the above, absolute eradication of sorrow and begetting
> happiness. No doubt these also ensue on attainment of jnana, but according
> to the text Jivanmuktiviveka by Swami Vidyaranya, in the case of sAdhakas
> who have not fully cultivated वासनाक्षय (vAsanAkShaya) and मनोनाश
> (manonAsha), due to absence of rigorous practice and being influenced from
> time to time by fructifying prArabdhakarma that leads to enjoyment,
> eradication of sorrow and begetting of  happiness is not consistent and
> stable. Depending upon the intensity of prior practice of वासनाक्षय
> (vAsanAkShaya) and मनोनाश (manonAsha), they frequently lapse into the
> normal mode of vyavaharika experience.Thus they partially lose the benefit
> of jnana attained by them. This showsup in various activities undertaken by
> them subsequent to jnana. For such sAdhakAs who do not like to forego this
> possible benefit, vidvat sanyasa is prescribed  which leads on fruition
> to jivanmukti, “freedom from bondage”. That is why, even Yagnavalkya though
> being a jnani desires to take to sanyAsa. A jivanmukta is practically all
> the time enjoying the “bliss of Brahman”. What normal people experience
> during sushupti (but cannot be enjoyed by them at that time due to being
> enveloped by avidya) is experienced by the jivanmukta in the waking state
> itself (as he is enveloped by Brahman) being constantly engrossed on
> Brahman. This is what is meant by “experiencing Brahman”. Jnanis have been
> classified into four categories ब्रह्मवित्  ब्रह्मवरः  ब्रह्मवरीयान्
> ब्रह्मविद्वरिष्ठः (brahmavit  brahmavaraH  brahmavarIyAn
> brahmavidvariShThaH  ) depending upon the level of वासनाक्षय
> (vAsanAkShaya) and मनोनाश (manonAsha) achieved by them. ब्रह्मविद्वरिष्ठः
> (brahmavidvariShThaH ) is another name for jivanmukta. The level of
> “absolute eradication of sorrow and begetting happiness” increases as the
> sAdhaka moves from the earlier to the later stage. Even Yagnavalkya is
> termed a brahmavit only at the time of debating in Janakasabha. This in
> brief is what is meant by “experiencing” Brahman while in this body itself.
> Jivanmukta is practically Brahman even while in this body.
> The above is as per the text Jivanmuktiviveka by Swami Vidyaranya.
> Pranams and Regards

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