[Advaita-l] Ramana Maharshi - Advaitin or Neo Advaitin?
lalitaalaalitah at lalitaalaalitah.com
Mon Oct 3 10:45:02 CDT 2016
I think, I missed to reply to this one.
It needs some help.
On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 at 21:07 Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com> wrote:
> First of all, these are not those tattva-s which are said to be one by
> The parichchhina-chaitanya is not tattva.
> So, no knowing these two is not enough.
> Yes, I agree. Knowing the two is not enough. However, one knows these two
> - I and Ishvara, and knows them not to be the same. The question is why
> does the aikyAnusandhAnam of sandhyAvandana ask the brahmachAri to say
It doesn't say to know. It says to do upAsana. That again is to gain
specific results. The word viGYAna here means upAsana.
> Therefore what the shruti says is one, is neither what I think as "I", nor
> what I think as "Ishvara".
You are heading towards guess. That's not what we are talking here.
The saying is easily in sync with the karma/upAsana prakaraNa. You don't
need to force it to GYAna.
*To add, unless you know shuddha-jIva and shuddha-brahman through means
other than mahAvAkya-s, there is no way to relate padam to them. So, they
can't remind them and hence there is no possibility of aikya-bodha.*
> If he was taught, then you are in my camp, not other's.
> BTW, just 'hearing' a sentence from someone somewhere can't be termed as
> learning the same. More so when the meaning was never taught.
> Taught as part of the the sandhyAvandana procedure. By the guru, in this
> case, the father. Hearing a sentence from someone somewhere is not
> learning. However, for a thinking student, the natural question that will
> arise when he looks at the sun saying "asAvadityo brahma, brahmaivAham
> asmi" is how can the shruti say that "I", who consider myself to be a
> limited individual, and the all powerful Ishvara is the same? However,
> shruti, which cannot be wrong, says that to be the case. Therefore, what I
> consider to be as me, and what I consider to be Ishvara must be wrong.
Look above. This is not needed to save prAmANya of shruti.
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