[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Re: Article on Shankaracharya

Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
Sun Nov 27 14:18:31 CST 2016


Dear Aravinda Raoji,

Sorry if I have hurt your feelings. I feel sad that the controversies on the date of Adi Shankaracharya has not been sorted out till today. I have read in a mahapurana  (I do not recall the reference at this instance to quote) that for practising dharma it is essential to have the proper historical facts. I hope there will be meeting(s) of the different groups to sort out the date of Adi Shankaracharya, sooner that later.

Regards,
SKB


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On Sun, 11/27/16, Aravinda Rao karavind09 at gmail.com [advaitin] <advaitin at yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [advaitin] Re: [Advaita-l] Article on Shankaracharya
 To: "Natarajan Ramamurthy natcons18 at yahoo.co.in [advaitin]" <advaitin at yahoogroups.com>
 Cc: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>, "Vineet Menon" <mvineetmenon+advaitalist at gmail.com>
 Date: Sunday, November 27, 2016, 7:20 AM
 
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       As a traditional and loyal
 student of Vedanta I found the article not only well
 articulated but quite acceptable. We have to admit some
 amount of dissidence or disagreement with traditional
 thought. Surprised to see this much of understanding and
 maturity in Pattanaik. Aravinda Rao
 
 
 On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at
 5:21 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
 [advaitin] <advaitin at yahoogroups.com>
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
     
       
       
       Dear Vineetji,
 
 
 
 You said :
 
 
 
 <Most historians agree that Adi Shankaracharya lived in
 the 8th century CE,
 
 or 1,200 years ago, 1,300 years after the Buddha. *(P.S.
 **three
 
 monasteries among the four set up by Shankaracharya –
 Dwaraka, Puri and
 
 Kanchi – will say it is 509 BC. The fourth Sringeri
 monastery will say 44
 
 BC)*>
 
 
 
 This is a very general statement and does not befit a
 scholarly forum. Scholars need proofs. . There are many
 historical leads such as the date of king Amaruka, that of
 king Sudhanva as well as of king Purnavarman, the date of
 Dharmapala, the teacher at Nalanda, who was a contemporary
 of Dharmakirti, date of the Malava king Vikramaditya, who
 was a contemporary of king  Purnavarman, etc. 
 
 
 
 Moreover Sri Sureshvaracharya has been  claimed to be one of
  the  earliest mathadhipatis by the Dwarka math, the
 Sringeri math, the Kudali-Sringeri math and also by the
 Kanchi Kamakoti math.
 
 
 
 All these have to be sorted out with patience and I am sure
 that all the claims of these mathas are their side of the
 truth and with patience all these can be sorted out,
 provided there is sincere will and open mind (i.e., no
 pre-conditioned or biased attitude)..to get the truth.
 Presently most of the scholars have their cup full with
 their own ideas and cannot accommodate other's views.
 
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Sunil KB
 
 
 
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 On Sat, 11/26/16, Vineet Menon via Advaita-l <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org> wrote:
 
 
 
 Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Article on Shankaracharya
 
  To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta"
 <advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org>
 
  Date: Saturday, November 26, 2016, 10:02 AM
 
  
 
  NakaskAra,
 
  
 
  As usual, Devdutt under heavy
 
  doses of Wendy Doniger writes something which
 
  looks good superficialy, but on deeper
 
  inspection is full of
 
  secular/western
 
  agenda.
 
  
 
  His commentaries
 
  and monographs were so brilliant that Vyasa, the
 mythical
 
  organiser of the Vedas, himself extended his
 
  life by another 16 years to
 
  spread his ideas
 
  to the world.
 
  
 
  But then,
 
  Mandana’s wife, Ubhaya Bharati, playfully challenged
 him
 
  to
 
  knowledge of erotics (kama-shastra). When
 
  the celibate Shankara pleaded
 
  ignorance, the
 
  lady asked him how he could claim to have understood the
 
  world without experiencing sensual pleasure and
 
  emotional intimacy. What
 
  followed is
 
  shrouded in mystery, and edited by latter-day puritans.
 
  Some people argue that this shows the influence
 
  of Buddhism on Vedism,
 
  causing Hindu
 
  supremacists to bristle.
 
  
 
  Like any ancient or medieval figure of Indian
 
  history, it is difficult to
 
  separate fact
 
  from fiction about Shankara’s life. Scholars are not
 
  sure
 
  which of his literary works are
 
  authentically his, and which are attributed
 
  to him to gain legitimacy or popularity.
 
  Depending on what one cherry
 
  picks, Shankara
 
  can be turned into an incarnation of Shiva, a champion
 of
 
  Hinduism who drove out Buddhists, a prodigious
 
  and prolific logician and
 
  poet, a savarna
 
  casteist Hindu, or a reconciler of paradoxes.
 
  
 
  This obsession of defeating
 
  intellectuals in debates has more to do with
 
  indulging the ego than expanding knowledge.
 
  
 
  Most historians agree that Adi
 
  Shankaracharya lived in the 8th century CE,
 
  or 1,200 years ago, 1,300 years after the
 
  Buddha. *(P.S. **three
 
  monasteries among the
 
  four set up by Shankaracharya – Dwaraka, Puri and
 
  Kanchi – will say it is 509 BC. The fourth
 
  Sringeri monastery will say 44
 
  BC)*
 
  
 
  
 
  On 26
 
  November 2016 at 22:43, V Subrahmanian via Advaita-l
 <
 
  advaita-l at lists.advaita-
 vedanta.org>
 
  wrote:
 
  
 
  > http://scroll.in/article/
 816610/how-adi-shankaracharya-
 
  >
 
  united-a-fragmented-land-with- philosophy-poetry-and-
 pilgrimage
 
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