[Advaita-l] Shankara and DrishTi-SrishTi vAda - eka jeeva vaada

H S Chandramouli hschandramouli at gmail.com
Tue May 24 04:54:23 CDT 2016


Sri Venkatraghavan Ji and Sri Subrahmanian Ji,

Namaste.

I am not disputing what you have said. I am not even debating SDV vs DSV.
But as you are no doubt aware there are any number of advaitins who do not
subscribe to DSV. That is why in my earlier post, I specifically added the
words  << in the view of its authors >>. I wanted to know authoritatively
what the authors meant their work to be. Reason for my doubt also I had
given therein. So I am not questioning or debating anything here. I am just
seeking a confirmation regarding the authors' intentions. That is all.

Regards

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 3:07 PM, Venkatraghavan S <agnimile at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Namaste Sri Chandramouliji,
>
> Near the the opening sections of the siddhAnta muktAvali, PrakAshAnada
> quoted the ShvetAshvatara shruti (and MahAnArAyaNa upanishad from
> Taittiriya) to justify why the avidyA upAdhi is one only and as a
> consequence  jIva is also one:
> अजामेकाम् लोहितशुक्लकृष्णाम् बह्वीः प्रजाः सृजमाना सरूपाः ।
> अजो ह्येको जुषमाणोsनुशेते जहात्येनां भुक्तभोगामजोsन्यः॥
>
> Please read the paragraph after this sloka wherein PrakAshAnada shows how
> EJV follows from this mantra - how avidyA is one, jIva is one, etc. In the
> Hindi version that Sri Praveen ji sent, this is on Page 17.
>
> I have previously sent you other shruti supports for DSV (स यथोर्णनाभिः
> from BrihadAraNyaka 2.1.20, etc.).
>
> So to answer your question "is the DSV considered an independent postulate
> based purely on reasoning ( independent of the shruti )", not really, it is
> very much based on the shruti, with reasoning as an ancillary support, like
> all of advaita.
>
> Regards,
> Venkatraghavan
> On 24 May 2016 9:34 a.m., "H S Chandramouli via Advaita-l" <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear Sri Anand Ji,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you very much for the explanation concerning mahAvAkya  presenting
>> the definition of tat pada as per Sri Madhusudhana Saraswati  confirming,
>> inter alia , the need and use for all the three words in the mahAvAkya.
>>
>>
>>
>> I have a doubt. In the view of its authors, is the DSV considered an
>> independent postulate based purely on reasoning ( independent of the
>> shrutis ), much like sAmkhya, yOga darshana etc,  but expounding the
>> ultimate advaita sidhAnta and drawing support from the shruti for its
>> arguments. On the other hand SDV is an exposition of the shrutis
>> themselves
>> through the Bhashya  and not an independent postulate. Thus it is improper
>> to compare SDV and DSV at all.
>>
>>
>>
>> My doubt is based on the following. Sri  PrakAshAnanda in his
>> sidhAntamuktAvali begins with the following statement
>>
>>
>>
>> << Having first gained through Veda a true intuition of that Self, which
>> has no second self and which is bliss and light and is imperishable, we
>> next expound the method of reasoning in regard to that self….I >>.
>>
>>
>>
>> He follows it up with the following commentary.
>>
>>
>>
>> << The grammatical construction is as follows : Having gained through Veda
>> an intuition of the Self with its four abovementioned charecteristics,
>> reasoning, ie. Ratiocination which is confirmatory of Veda, is now
>> expounded in regard to it, tatra , ie. the Self as characterized in the
>> aforesaid manner.  >>.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thus the emphasis is purely on reasoning ( logic ) only. This is clear
>> from
>> the presentation of the issue in the work itself. It is highly polemical
>> in
>> character and almost solely concerned with refuting various objections (
>> assumed ) raised by the opponents on a logical basis. It does not flow
>> freely from the shrutis , but only quotes relevant vAkyAs from the shrutis
>> in support of its arguments.
>>
>>
>> I would be obliged for a response.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> >
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