[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Why only jagat is mithya and jeeva is brahman !!??

Durga Prasad Janaswamy janaswami at gmail.com
Mon Mar 21 08:40:30 CDT 2016

Hari Om,

what exactly is the jagat svarUpa
>> sat / chit

how it is avidyAkalpita
>>  seeing it as nama rupa  (having satyatva buddi in nama rupa),  but not
as sat /chit.

what exactly does it mean brahman is both nimitta and upAdAna kAraNa when
jagat is just like adhyArOpita 'sarpa' on the rope
>> please look it from dristi-shrusti vada, because rajju-sarpa (or sapna)
is dristi- shrusti only.

-- durga prasad

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 12:17 AM, Bhaskar YR via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> praNAms Sri lalitalAlita prabhuji
> Hare Krishna
> I request you to go through old mails which criticized you. They were not
> full of personal criticism only.
> >  prabhuji, I know that and I ignored your personal criticisms  on me
> coz. I know that it was in good intention and nothing personal.
> If you get my point of view from them, then OK.
> But, I'm sorry that I don't have that much time to dedicate to any
> discussion like this.
> >  I know that prabhuji, hence I donot want to drag this discussion with
> you.
> I know from where you are talking.
> I wish you could just put your view aside and try to get what my view
> is/popular view is. You already know that, hence you started thread. It was
> conflicting with your present understanding.
> >  As I said in the first mail, jagan mithyatvam is an axiomatic statement
> from the tradition alongwith brahma satyatvaM.  I am just trying to dig
> deep into this jagat mithyatvaM from the point of kArya - kAraNa ananyatvaM
> and at the same time without disturbing the ultimate reality of brahman
> i.e. it is nirguNa, nirvisheesha, niravayava. I am of the opinion that the
> popular opinion can be re-visited from this point of view.
> Now, I request you to put your understanding away for some time and repeat
> what I said. I will clarify the meaning, if you fail to grasp. Once you
> understand my point of view, you are free to compare that with yours and
> find errors.
> >  while I am really indebted to you to get your help, I would like to say
> that my understanding is not my own assumption without any bhAshya or
> gurUpadesha.   IMHO, shankara / shruti would not have taken the trouble to
> advocate mAya satkArya vAda in the light of ajAtivAda and insisting the
> kArya-kAraNa ananyatvaM while clarifying the adhyArOpita kAraNatvaM on
> nirvikAri brahman.  Here I want to dig-deep with regard to jagan
> mithyatvaM, what exactly is the jagat svarUpa, how it is avidyAkalpita and
> what exactly does it mean brahman is both nimitta and upAdAna kAraNa when
> jagat is just like adhyArOpita 'sarpa' on the rope.
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> Bhaskar
> PS :  if you could permit me, I would like to share my thoughts with
> regard to your observation on my lead post.
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