[Advaita-l] Fw: Why did Krishna said that he was unable to repeat Gita?

Praveen R. Bhat bhatpraveen at gmail.com
Mon Dec 12 04:05:50 CST 2016

Namaste Chandramouliji,

Thanks for your mail. I was talking only of Paramahamsa sannyasi, which
obviously is not the context of Gita! Apologies for mixing up. However,
some other comments follow inline...

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 1:31 PM, H S Chandramouli <hschandramouli at gmail.com>

> Reg  << There are only two reasons to take sannyAsa: one due to आत्मानं
> वेदितुम् इच्छा विविदिषा desire to know the self, and the other due to
> आत्मानं वेत्ति जानाति इति विद्वत् being knower of the self.>>,
> Not so. There are four categories of sanyasa namely  कुटीचक, बहूदक , हम्स
> , परमहम्स (kuTIchaka, bahUdaka,  hamsa,  paramahamsa). All the four
> involve karmasanyAsa. Of these हम्स and  परमहम्स (hamsa and paramahamsa)
> fall under the विविदिषा (vividishA) category. They are recommended only
> after a sAdhaka acquires sAdhanachatushtaya.

The four categories you mention are only based on the levels of vairAgya
which drive a person to renunciation, and therefore, what kind of rules of
stay, food, etc, they follow, but not based on whether they are
renunciation of the seeker or knower. Even among them, only बहुदक seems to
keep the यज्ञोपवित and therefore, can gain adhikAritva.

> But the other two कुटीचक and  बहूदक (kuTIchaka and bahUdaka) are for
> sAdhakAs who are yet to acquire sAdhanachatushtaya but are still desirous
> of taking to sanyasa, being averse to worldly activities.

The 2nd mantra of Bhikshukopanishad says that Yajnavalkya was a kuTichaka
and we know from Brihadaranyakopanishad that he took vidvatsannyAsa!
Otherwise, I am inline with you that Bhagavan is placing karmayoga as a
better path compared to sannyAsa which is without adhikAritva.

In JMV, Swami Vidyaranya says that only Paramahamsa gets jivanmukti, while
even the Hamsa attains Brahmaloka and so, gets kramamukti. And he says
Paramahamsa has the two categories of vividiShA and vidvat.

Kind rgds,
--Praveen R. Bhat
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