[Advaita-l] [advaitin] Why only jagat is mithya and jeeva is brahman !!??

Ravi Kiran ravikiranm108 at gmail.com
Thu Apr 28 01:08:36 CDT 2016


Namaste

You may want to refer Chandogya 6th chap ( khanda 2) starting with, ( and
the bhAshya that follows )

सदेव सोम्येदमग्र आसीदेकमेवाद्वितीयम्

Sure, there would be other refs..

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Ramachandra Sastry via Advaita-l <
advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:

> Namaste,
>
> Thanks Sada-ji and Venkaraghavan-ji.
>
> For my study sake, can i know some references from scriptures which
> specifically says Brahman is the adhishTanam of the jagat.
> Also , i would like to know few references from Shruti or Bhasya which
> specifically indicates that Jagat should be considered as Vivartopadana
> karana and not Abbinimmittopadana Karana.
>
>
>
> Regards
> Ramachandra Sastry
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:56 PM, kuntimaddi sadananda <
> kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > PraNAms - answered below.
> >
> > --------------------------------------------
> > On Wed, 4/27/16, Ramachandra Sastry <ramachandra.sastry at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >  Namaste,
> >  I have a
> >  query on Adhisthana (substratam) of Jagat being Brahman,
> >  request scholars to explain please.
> >  1) When we say the serpent that is
> >  seen is only an illusion due to Avidya, we can determine
> >  whether the Adhisthana is a rope or a crack in the ground by
> >  Pratyaksha, Similarly if Brahman were an object for
> >  Pratyaksa then we could determine whether or not it is the
> >  Adhisthana for the illusory Jagat, however, Brahman is not a
> >  matter of Pratyaksa at all and only the Jagat is seen,
> >  therefore it might be not possible to say whether it's
> >  Adisthana is Brahman or some think else?
> >
> > Ans: Yes - you are right - Hence to know that Brahman is the adhishTanam
> > of the jagat - Scripture alone is pramaana. or means of knowledge, since
> > Brahman by definition is imperceptible.For that Vedanta alone is
> pramaana-
> > where creation is discussed.
> >
> >  2)  How can formless Brahman be
> >  Adhishthana for the illusory forms, because there must be
> >  resemblance between the illusion and it's Adhisthana
> >  when it is not possible to imagine a snake in a shell or
> >  silver in a rope, how can the forms of the Jagat be imagined
> >  in the formless Brahman
> >
> > Ans: Brahman being infinite cannot have form. The formless Brahman can
> > appear with many forms - just as formless mind projects many forms in the
> > dream world that you create. Hence to know the absolute truth which
> cannot
> > be perceived nor can be deduced by logic - one has to approach a teacher
> > and study Vedanta - says the scriptures. - tat vijnaanaartham guruam eva
> > abhigachchet says Mundaka Up. tat viddhi praNipaatena pariprashnena
> sevaya
> > - says Krishna. One need to study Vedanta under a competent teacher - a
> > competent teacher is one who studied vedanta under another competent
> > teacher - all the way to the Lord.
> >
> > Hari Om!
> > Sadananda
> >
> >  RegardsRamachandra Sastry
> >
> >
> >  On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at
> >  7:58 PM, kuntimaddi sadananda via Advaita-l <
> > advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> >  wrote:
> >
> >
> >  PraNAms
> >
> >
> >
> >  After posting I recognized that Shree venkatraghavanji
> >  already discussed the issue - I essentially agree what he
> >  has stated.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Hari Om!
> >
> >  Sada
> >
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