[Advaita-l] Attributes and upadhis

Keshava PRASAD Halemane k_prasad_h at yahoo.co.in
Fri Jul 10 23:54:10 CDT 2015

namastE.praNaams to our beloved Sri Sadananda-ji  &  Sri Anand-ji.
After almost a week of somewhat intensive interactions now i feel 'exhausted' - not tired, but emptied! See the word 'exhausted' here! I really mean it, in the same sense that that word was probably used originally, meaning emptied! I mean i do not have any more points to present on this issue - i have shared all that i have, dispersed in several of my emails/posts during the last week or so, in one of these threads which bear the subject-line with that word 'akhanDAkAra' etc. Now i wish to sit back silently and may be just read what others have to say. Of course, i am not averse to share when i do find something that i feel is worth sharing, something that i haven't shared earlier. I hope you along with all my friends in the group will understand. Thank you. 
Keshava PRASAD HalemanemOkShakaamaarthadharmahjanmanaa jaayatE jantuḥ |  samskaaraat hi bhavEt dvijaḥ ||  vEda-paaThaat bhavEt vipra |  brahma jnaanaat hi braahmaNah || 

     On Saturday, 11 July 2015 10:02 AM, kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:

Ananda ji 

You said:

-The knowledge that comes to your mind then is "this is that pot", i.e. what you see now is the same pot that you saw in your home. But the knowledge, "this is that pot" does not involve any attribute of the pot, such as color or even the special figure on it, although the recognition may have been based on attributes. It is a simple case of recognition, "this is that object", without focusing on any attribute of the object. - 

I am confused by the following statements: 

Is recognition different from knowledge when you say - knowledge 'this is a that pot'  does  not involve any attribute of the pot. Obviously this is not any other pot but that pot implies recognition. Unless one is seeing for the first time, the cognition and recognition involves comparison to some extent current attributes with those of previous ones. 

Pot itself is akaara and recognition of an object as Pot itself involves attributive knowledge since it is not pot not a jug. This is that pot involves as you mentioned recognition and some common attribute of this pot and that pot. Without a basis of some common attributes one cannot say this is that pot - 

Epistemological -there is always knowledge of x or y, or objective knowledge, but pure unqualified knowledge is undefinable and that is Jnaana swaruupam or Braham. 

Hari Om!


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