[Advaita-l] Brief comparison of three great Acharyas....

[Srivathsa Rao]

Now tell me who is real jagath guru....who  really saved sanathana vaidika
matha?

On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:39 PM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sri Rao,
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> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Srivathsa Rao via Advaita-l <
> advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org> wrote:
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>> Sir,
>>
>> Here what ever points I have mentioned are all facts,
>> Even today madhvas and vishistadvaithi's won't respect other gods much
>> especially shiva,they treat other gods as dummy gods...they treat vishnu
>> as
>> the only superior god.These are all because of their guru madhva and
>> ramanuja's mean meantality....
>>
>> I got these informations  from a book "Jagath guru Adi shankara"...by kota
>> vasudeva karantha.
>> In this book he briefly compares all three acharyas...the main points in
>> that book are mentioned by me in this email....
>>
>> Please tell your valuable comment...
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Srivathsa Rao <vathsa108 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Sir,
>> >
>> > Here I compare three Great Acharyas of Sanathana Hindu dharma ...
>> >
>> > Adi Shankarachaya :
>> >
>> > 1) His vision is full India :
>> > He got followers from all four corners of india that can be easily seen
>> > from his four amnaya peetham at four corners of india. He defeated in
>> > debate,not only asthikas in vada,but also nasthikas like jains and
>> > bhudhists.The most difficult thing, very cruial kapalikas also accepted
>> his
>> > vada.So,he can be called as Jagath guru.
>> >
>> > 2) He never said advaita accepted people are superior  to others.He
>> never
>> > said ,
>> > only advaita leads to salvation or if you follow other path ,it take you
>> > to eternal hell.
>> > He just said we are sampradaya vadis.
>> >
>> > 3)He never blamed other philosophy gurus or its followers.Even though he
>> > objected bhudhist view ,he never blamed bhudha.Even very nasthika
>> charvaka
>> > was also not blamed by him,only his view point is objected by
>> shankara.That
>> > is followed even by his followers.Because of this nature of shankara, no
>> > advaithi blame bhudha or charvaka.they just object their philosophy.
>> >
>> > 4) Shankara never objected his guru govidha bagavath pada vada.He just
>> > followed his guru,which is requirement of a vedanthi.
>> >
>> > 5) He took his mother's permission to become a sanyasi.He became sanyasi
>> > because it is the symbol of sacrifice.And even he wanted to strengthen
>> > sanathna dharma,so he came sanyasi.
>> >
>> > 6)his most of  followers were noble brahmins.
>> >
>> > 7) he never said he is avathar of some one or he never said I am
>> superior
>> > to others .But his followers say him to be avathar of shiva.
>> >
>> > 8) He said to treat all gods are equal,sever said some god is superior
>> to
>> > other god.or pray some god and neglect some other god.
>> >
>> > this can be easily seen from his panchaitana pooja padhathi.
>> >
>> > 9) Without shankaracharya sanathana vaidika dharma would have vanished
>> > from indian,by this time.Because of his effort sanathana dharma is still
>> > there is india.
>> > So,all brahmins of all sects should respect him.He brought unity among
>> > brahmins by bringing them under single sidhanta.
>> >
>> > 10) He united the brahmins.
>> >
>> > Ramanujaacharya :
>> >
>> > 1) His view is mainly tamilnadu and little karnataka.Even in tamil nadu
>> > only few follow his philosophy .So,he cannot be called as jagath guru.
>> >
>> > 2)Even he never said his philosophy is superior to other philosophy or
>> > only following his philosophy will lead to salvation.
>> >
>> > 3) He called shankara as prachanna bhudha,indirectly blaming
>> shankara,the
>> > preacher of advaitha philosophy.this is even followed by his
>> followers.That
>> > is why his followers don't respect shankara much.It is because of this
>> > ramanuja's nature his followers won't respect shankara.
>> >
>> > 4) He went against this guru yadava preksha,and even thought he will
>> kill
>> > him.
>> > He even took sanyasa from no one which is against vedas which says one
>> has
>> > to take sanyasa from a guru.But ramanuja says he took sanyasa,but no one
>> > guru  gave him sanyasa.
>> >
>> > 5) he din't even asked his wife's permission to become sanyasi,and
>> became
>> > a sanyasi.He became sanyasi just to show it as a fashion .Otherwise how
>> can
>> > he says himself as sanysi and still no guru to him to give sanyasa.
>> >
>> > 6) Most of his followers were vaishyas or baniyas and not brahmins.He
>> also
>> > spent lot of his life time with non-brahmins.
>> >
>> > 7) I think he said he is avathar of adi shesha. or avathar of lakshmana.
>> >
>> > 8) He said worshiping vishnu is enough.No need to worship other gods.
>> >
>> > 9) Even though ,Because of shankara ,sanathana dharma is still there in
>> > india.He never thanked shankara for his great job,he just blamed
>> shankara
>> > as prachanna bhudha.
>> >
>> > 10)Because of Ramanuja there is no unity among brahmins in tamil
>> > nadu.Iyengars and Iyers always fight among each others.
>> >
>> > 11) He divided the brahmins.
>> >
>> >
>> > Madhvacharya :
>> >
>> > 1) His view is mainly karnataka, even in karnataka only few sects of
>> > brahmins follow his philosophy.So,he cannot be called as jagath guru.
>> >
>> > 2) He said his philosophy is superior to other philosophy.He also said
>> > that only following his philosophy will lead to salvation.Following
>> other
>> > sects will lead to eternal hell.He also called the one who preach other
>> > philosophy is a devil.
>> >
>> > 3) He called other philosophers as devil.He directly called
>> shankaracharya
>> > as manimantha daithya in his book mahabharatha thatparya nirnaya .He
>> says
>> > with jealous of bhima sena ( madhva's previous birth) ,manimantha
>> > (shankaracharya ) became shankaracharya  and thought wrong philosophy to
>> > this world.Such a mean mentality madhva had.
>> > Because of this nature of madhva ,even to day madhva's never respect
>> > shankaracharya, even today  madhvas treat shankara as manimantha
>> > daithya.This  madhva's ideology is just followed by his followers.
>> >
>> > 4) He went against his guru achutha preksha,even as a student. He never
>> > listened to his guru,while he was teaching.Which is not a required
>> behavior
>> > of a vedanthi.
>> >
>> > 5) Even though his father objected him from becoming sanyasi,rejecting
>> his
>> > father's words ,he became sanyasi.He became sanyasi just because If he
>> > become sanyasi then only people will follow him.Other why He wanted to
>> take
>> > sanyasa from advaitha sanyasi, as all advaithis are devils?......why
>> > because he says he knows every thing from birth so,that he came to this
>> > world to preach dvaita....
>> >
>> > 6) His followers are mostly brahmins.
>> >
>> > 7) He said he is avathar of vayu deva or he is avathar of hanumantha.He
>> > said he is superior to all jeevas. He even said that ,He is the most
>> > knowledgeable among all jeevas that no other jeevas have his equal or
>> > higher jgnana (knowledge) or shankthi (power).
>> >
>> > 8) He said to not to treat all gods are equal.If we treat all god are
>> > equal (Shiva and vishnus are equal)...we go to eternal hell.He said to
>> > treat vishnu as superior to all other gods.
>> > He said to worship all other gods just as  dammi gods ,just a
>> > representative of vishnu.
>> >
>> > 9) Even though because of adi shankarachaya sanathana dharma is still
>> > there in india,He never thanked shankara for this work.But he blammed
>> > shankaracharya in bad words.
>> >
>> > 10) Beacause of madhva,there is no unity among brahmins in karnataka.
>> > Madhvas and advaithis even fight today for their philosophy or for their
>> > culture   and there is no unity among brahmins in karnataka .
>> >
>> > 11) He divied brahmins.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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