[Advaita-l] Which one is first in the creation sequence

H S Chandramouli hschandramouli at gmail.com
Fri Feb 28 05:23:26 CST 2014

<< In the book 'srIdakShiNamUrtistotram' Vol.1, p.132 there is a sub-title
''kramasRShTi, yugapatsRShTi.'  There, for the latter, there is a reference
from the kauShItakI upaniShad 3.3 is given:

yathA agneH jvalataH sarvaa disho visphulingA vipratiShTeran evameva
etasmAt AtmanaH sarve prANA yathAyatanam vipratiShThante prANebhyo devA
devebhyo lokAH.

[Even as sparks proceed in all directions from blazing fire, even so from
this Self the vital breaths proceed to their respective stations, from the
vital powers the Gods (the sense powers) and from the Gods, the worlds.]

In the same vein we can see the muNDaka shruti 2.2.1 and a Br.up. mantra

Thanks for the clarification. I do not see how this means all craeation
took place simultaneously. I will however try and get at the book referred
to for proper understanding. But I went thru the Mundaka sloka 2.2.1 along
with the bhashya , but did not get the impression that the verse/bhashya
anywhere states that the entire creation takes place simultaneously.


On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 2:03 AM, ramesh badisa <badisa66 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Namaskaram.
> At the beginning of email, I would like to seek your forgiveness for
> raising a silly question. I could not figure out the answer for myself. So,
> I am requesting all members to help me.
> My confusion was related to two Bhagawad Gita slokas -
> 4/13 (chatur varnyam ...)  &
> 10/6 (Maharsayah Sapta ..).
> The first sloka talks about four varnas. So, it is obvious that it is
> concerned to the creation;
> The second sloka talks about creation of seven great sages by the Lord.
> This is also concerned to the creation.
> My confusion was that which one stands first in the creation.
> If you say, "it doesn't matter", then, sorry the matter ends there.
> However, if you would like to help me, please read further.
> Is it 4/13 first or 10/6 first
> When there is no creation, then, there are no varnas.
> Similarly, when seven great sages were born, there are no four varnas but
> only one varna - the first varna.
> For me, it appears that the classification of varnas by Lord came much
> later after the creation. Please correct me if I am wrong.
> Namaskaram,
> ramesh
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