[Advaita-l] MuktikA Upanishad / MuktikOpanishat cited by srI VidyAraNya svAmI in PanchdaSI
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Fri Feb 28 00:57:46 CST 2014
For a highly advanced soul, even a single mahavakya- Tat Tvam Asi is enough
On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 11:22 AM, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com> wrote:
> Namaste Ajit ji and Sunil ji,
> I understand what you say.
> As I am not versed in sanskrit, I reply on translations. Translation hosted
> by astrojyoti <http://www.astrojyoti.com/MuktikaUpanishad.htm> says that
> Mandukya is enough. Please can you check and give correct translation.
> इयं कैवल्यमुक्तिस्तु केनोपायेन सिद्ध्यति .
> माण्डूक्यमेकमेवालं मुमुक्षूणां विमुक्तये .. २६..
> तथाप्यसिद्धं चेज्ज्ञानं दशोपनिषदं पठ .
> ज्ञानं लब्ध्वा चिरादेव मामकं धाम यास्यसि .. २७..
> तथापि दृढता न चेद्विद्ज्ञानस्याञ्जनासुत .
> द्वात्रिंशाख्योपनिषदं समभ्यस्य निवर्तय .. २८..
> विदेहमुक्ताविच्छा चेदष्टोत्तरशतं पठ .
> तासां क्रम सशान्तिं च श्रुणु वक्ष्यामि तत्त्वतः .. २९..
> I-i-26-29. But by what means is the Kaivalya kind of Moksha got ? The
> Mandukya is enough; if knowledge is not got from it, then study the Ten
> Upanishads. Getting knowledge very soon, you will reach my abode. If
> certainty is not got even then, study the 32 Upanishads and stop. If
> desiring Moksha without the body, read the 108 Upanishads. Hear their
> Kanchi Paramacharya in his book Hindu Dharma also says that for Kaivalya
> mukti, it is believed that Mandukya is enough
> My personal opinion on this is:
> OM covers everything all trinity (trio), satva, rajas, tamas, 2 states
> (waking, etc) and the 4th part or sthiti or OM is turiya, beyond mAyA.
> Hence if you know OM, you can transcend duality.
> But the thing is not all can just hold on to OM. We do not even know what
> is moksha. It takes time to understand certain things, change our
> perspective of life, the way we live. For that shastras play important role
> in giving clarity and direction. Of course Guru is necessary.
> Importance of OM is evident from the fact that whole upanishad is dedicated
> to explaining just OM. OM is also found in many other upanishads.
> But as I have said, for clearing doubts, getting clarity, brining ourselves
> back on track, words of Guru and Shastras are necessary. But I believe in
> restrictive approach. If by reading just gita, the path is cleared, then no
> need to read upanishad (just for e.g.). We cannot practice all vidyA-s. One
> is enough. Repetition helps in a way that it brushes us what we need to do.
> Generally, we are stuck up somewhere and try to find solution. While
> reading shastras I try to find solution to my doubt (unknowingly). When I
> get, it, mind clams down and I get clarity. It's time to meditate.
> Meditation is key. You know that your mind reacts or that you are
> emotionally attached to someone or involved in any issue, when that thing
> pops up in mind during meditation. For some rare pure soul, even OM is not
> needed. Neti-neti is enough, but for us, OM is better. Mind falls back from
> spiritual, calm and blissful state, as it has lots of other desires
> (desires other than moksha).
> Cutting short, if mind is able to hold on to OM , because of very pure mind
> and no interest in society and worldly affairs, then no need t read more.
> These type of people are often rare and upon maturity turn into mystics or
> Guru, but not acharya. An acharya is the one who teaches and practices step
> by step, in a traditional way, necessary for laymen like me. For just Self
> realization, not everything is needed to learn, but if you are destined to
> teach then you may be taught in a traditional way, as many would get
> convinced if answers are given from shastras, then from direct experience
> Hari OM
> On Fri, Feb 28, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Sunil Bhattacharjya <
> sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Namaste Sujalji,
> > Muktika does not say that Mandukya is enough. What it says that if anyone
> > wants to read (or have the time and obviously also the inclination) for
> > reading only one upanishad, then one should go for the Mandukya
> > Sincerely,
> > Sunil KB
> > On Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:08 AM, Ajit Krishnan <
> > ajit.krishnan at gmail.com> wrote:
> > namaste,
> > > Even Muktika says that Mandukya is enough. If one is not able to
> > > truth, then read 10.
> > A few upanishads are important because they are referred to in the brahma
> > sutras. This was probably one factor that encouraged Swami Vidyaranya and
> > Swami Shankarananda to comment on some upanishads outside the "big 10".
> > understanding of the brahma sutra bhashya requires an understanding of
> > than just the mandukya upanishad.
> > sasneham,
> > ajit
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