[Advaita-l] Reflections on Ramayana

kuntimaddi sadananda kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com
Fri Apr 11 08:40:24 CDT 2014

Sujalji - PraNAms

SharaNAgati ultimately involves dropping all wrong notions about oneself, about the world and about even Iswara. The surrendering is to recognize that there is nothing that can be surrendered other than the wrong notions. 

There is beautiful introduction to Bri. Up. by Swami Krishnanandaji of Divine Light mission -  which he calls as Esoteric view of life in contrast to Exoteric view of life as one surrenders. One can access the write up at 

Going inside deep is nothing but clear understanding in the final analysis that there is no inside and outside.

Sarva bhutastam attamaanam sarva bhuutanicha aatmani or

 yo maam pasyati sarvatra sarvanca mayi pasyati. or

 antar bahishca tat sarvam vyaapya naaraayanaH sthitaH. 

All means the same.  Here is URL for those who are interested Found as I am preparing for my camp on the essence of Bri. Up.series. 


Sometimes the very longing for experience will deprive you of that experience. In stead on the experience shift the mind's attention to the experiencer of that deep experience, since I am there in all experiences. deep only means I am esoteric than exoteric. My suggestion is do not long for depth - just reject what you are not or what can be objectifiable entity since they are not really real and shift the mind's attention to that which is changeless in all changing experiences. 
Illness is only at the body level - just the drop the idea that you are recovering from illness, since you are the witnessing consciousness that is conscious of the illness of the body and its recovery too. I do recognize that it is easy to advise but one has to do by abhyasa and vairaagya  as Krishna advises- no short cuts. 

Hari Om!

On Fri, 4/11/14, Sujal Upadhyay <sujal.u at gmail.com> wrote:

  We can go inside (deep within) :), as ISvara is within the
 heart. Heart is
 also the source, substratum of entire universe.
 As one goes deep within, the real Self is waiting. Whatever
 is to be done
 is done by someone else and you, as an individual, has no
 role in it.
 Hence all the emotions, dis-satisfied desires and karmas are
 uprooted or
 get dissolved or better taken care of by ISvara and not you
 Is this approach right?
 I have personally experienced that once the mind is rooted
 in something
 very deep, then meditation happen effortlessly and thoughts
 and vAsanAs
 (which actually do not have any form, but are raw, unstable
 energy) are
 uprooted with ease.
 Though this does not happen on daily basis and I am
 recovering from
 illness, which has broken my meditation. I do not reach this
 depth daily.
 But I have experienced it many times in past.

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