[Advaita-l] FW: Saakshii-Jiiva-Iswara Analysis - VII

Ranga Rathnam sranga1955 at hotmail.com
Thu Mar 28 00:26:24 CDT 2013

From: sranga1955 at hotmail.com
To: kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com
Subject: RE: [Advaita-l] Saakshii-Jiiva-Iswara Analysis - VII
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 08:30:42 +0530

Excellent, lucid, concise writeup. Waiting for the next part, but meanwhile thought of asking a question.

You say tarkikaas accept oneness of space.
What exactly is meant by that? I thought the 5 elements were made up of atoms according to nyaya-vaiseshika darshana. Does it mean that akasha has only one atom? 

If a person immerses an object in water, the atoms of water move and give way to the object.
If akasha is one and has no parts how can objects exist 'in space'

Doesn't oneness of space and a realist philosophy conflict each other?


> Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 08:20:49 -0700
> From: kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com
> To: advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org; advaitin at yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Advaita-l] Saakshii-Jiiva-Iswara Analysis - VII
> Analysis of
> Saakshii, Jiiva And Iswara
> Based on
> Vichaarasaagara of Nischaladaasa - VII

> Oneness of the all-pervading space in spite of
> apparent divisions due to upAdhis or walls is accepted by all systems of Indian
> philosophy, including nyaaya vaisheshikas, or the tarkikaas or the logicians.
> While functions and properties of conditioned spaces (vishiShTa Akaasha) differ
> depending on the upAdhis, space itself is considered as unconditioned, uncontaminated,
> indivisible and all-pervading subtler entity compared to the apparently
> limiting adjuncts, the upAdhis. Nischaladaasa uses this example later in
> refuting the puurvapakshi. The relation between the pot-space and total space
> is not of the type involving part and the total (amsha-amshI or avayava-avayavI
> sambandha), since space cannot be parted. Consciousness is subtler than the
> space, since existence-consciousness remains in deep sleep state even when
> space and time are swallowed. Space is the first element that is born out of
> aatma, in the order of creation, as per Tai. Up. 


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