[Advaita-l] I am Alone in the Universe?
vmurthy36 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 7 23:11:04 CST 2013
Namaste Sri Sadananda
Earlier itself I said in the Eka Jiva Vada the Jeeva thinks I am Alone
in the Universe. If I say Jeeva it is before Realization of I am
Brahman. The Brahman cannot say I am Alone in Universe because there
is no Universe. We have to talk about Jeeva only.
But Jeeva is saying I am Alone in Universe because all these people I
am seeing and things and the Universe I am seeing itself is my dream.
There is no proof for these people being actually real. They are not
Jeevas like me. They look like me they talk like me they behave like
me but they are dream objects. My parents and wife and children are
dream objects. The Jeeva is seeing the dream. But he does not know how
to get out of the dream. Why he has to get out?
Because the dream is not always making him happy. Sometimes he is
happy. Sometimes he is unhappy. If the dream is always good he can say
let it continue. But it makes him sad sometimes. He wants the dream to
end. Then he can be happy always. He can be Brahman. But now he is
only Jeeva. How to end the dream? The answer is in the dream only. He
has to go to a Guru in the dream and get instructions from him. The
Guru is also a dream object. The Vedanta he is teaching is a dream
object only. The dream Guru will teach from the dream Vedanta. Jeeva
has to study the dream books of Advaita. Then he will get realization
I am Brahman and the dream will be over.
This is the most beautiful and most simple Advaita Tattva. I don't
know why it is not taught but other very very complicated things are
taught. They are very confusing.
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 8:52 AM, kuntimaddi sadananda
<kuntimaddisada at yahoo.com> wrote:
> When I recognize that I am alone - there is no question of - in this universe. Nay - there is no question of making any statements of the type.
> What actually is - I am - is the only absolute realty and everything including this universe as well as the other beings are mithyaa - since perception of plurality will still takes place as long as BMI is there - but notion of reality to the perceived plurality drops down - it is recognized that jagat is mithyaa. Only when the BMI drops nothing further can be said or need to be said.
> Hari Om!
>> From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
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>>.'Seeing through the illusory nature of dream "I" is the end of suffering.'
>>But how to see through the dream I ? It is like understanding it is a
>>dream in the dream itself. It is difficult. When you wake up from a
>>bad dream you can say it was only a dream. But when you are in that
>>dream how can you say that ?
>>A dream Guru has to tell me I am in a dream. Then I will wake up.
>>On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:25 PM, S Srivastava <sksrivastava68 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> But why should I end this dream ? Because the dream
>>>> is not always making me happy. If I have only good dream let it
>>>> continue for ever. But I cannot control my dream. Sometimes it becomes
>>>> a bad dream and makes me unhappy. I must end this dream to make me
>>>> happy always.
>>> Sir: The dream "I" does not experience suffering. It IS suffering. The
>>> dream "I" cannot get liberated simply because it itself is the cause of
>>> (illusory) bondage.Seeing through the illusory nature of dream "I" is the
>>> end of suffering.
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