[Advaita-l] Alaya vijnana and Adwaita.

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Re: [Advaita-l] Alaya vijnana and Adwaita.
Monday, 4 March, 2013 5:37 PM


"Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>Add sender to Contacts 

"A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>

Alaya vijnana is what travels from  birth to birth to get new bodies till the bodiless state is reached ie. till one loses the five skandhas. To me the Alaya vijnana is not any different from the ancient concept of Atma. At the liberation the jeeva realises oneness of Jeevatma and Brahman. 

If the Buddhist scholars were not interested in any different terminologies they could have used the ancient Hindu terminologies. Lord Buddha did not want to found any new religion. The later day Buddhist scholars only made a new religion using Buddha's name.

Sunil KB

From: Srikanta Narayanaswami <srikanta.narayanaswami at yahoo.com>
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Subject: [Advaita-l] Alaya vijnana and Adwaita.

"A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>

Dear friends,

The scholars have the knack of making simple things difficult and that has been from the time of Vasubandhu down to Dharmakiriti and so on. They discard the old terminologies as being inadequate and that is probably to impress on the layman, by making difficult for the latter to comprehend.. Nagarjuna shouted from the rooftop that Shunyata is not not-existence. This is in line with the illustration of Lord Buddha that when water evaporates it disappears from a vessel and that does not mean that water becomes non-existent, though the empty vessel is left behind.  The Yogachara wanted to become more emphatic saying that there is no loss of information when one dies. The mass of information gathered during the lifetime (through the jnanendriyas) is the "alayavijnana" which goes to the next birth. It will not be wrong to say that in Buddhism what dies is the anatma and what goes to the next birth is the "alayavijnana", which is nothing but the soul or
"atma" as the Hindus call it.

My two cents please.

Sunil KB
With reference to the above posting,it is not possible to obtain proof to support the above theory.Both Hinduism and Buddhism have strived to get at the Truth.It is not correct to say that the scholars have the knack to make simple things difficult.Iam sure that all will agree that  to get at the base of Truth one has to discuss and analyse what we have before us.Though Nagarjuna shouted from the roof tops that Shunyata is not nothing ness the Buddhistic logic has further gone to define what is Shunyata.Many Buddhist scholars have written books on this and continue to write down to the present HHDalai Lama.We cannot po-poo any discussion if we are interested to get at the Truth.Even with Advaita,there is no conclusive proof about what is Atma?Where is it located?Some say the body is the Atma,Atma itself has taken the form of the body,some say dwaita is real as it is seen before us,some say only Advaita is real from the books.With this how can we say
what I say is the Truth and waht others are saying is a lie?
The Hindu scriptures notably Vedanta has the Upanishads(sruthi)as the authority.But,Buddhism though it had Gauta Buddha as its founder,depended on Logic(tarka).It is based on tarka that new branches in Buddhism were built.They go to the extent of saying that even Buddha is an appearance.Only in "Hinayana"they say that the destruction of pancha skandas is death."It is like blowing out a burning candle"That is called "Nirvana".The Mahayana refrains from describing the Nirvana,or even what is Alaya vijnana.Here,Buddha is silent.He doesnot define,what is death or afterlife.It is not possible to answer these questions.

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