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sksrivastava68 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 31 00:07:05 CDT 2012
Complete book for free download in pdf form is available here:
However considering the bulk of the book, you may prefer to read it on
This book is an excellent and exhaustive resource on Sri Bhagwan's
teachings. The only minus point I can think of is that there is lot of
repetition in the book. On second thoughts, even that may not be a bad
thing considering the subtle nature of the subject.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:18 AM, Sivakumar,Kollam <sivanr8010 at gmail.com>wrote:
> Sadara praNAm,
> would you please provide details about the title "Happiness and the Art of
> On Sat, Oct 27, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Sanjay Srivastava <
> sksrivastava68 at gmail.com
> > wrote:
> > > According to the narration, Bhagvan Ramana did not have good knowledge
> > > upanishads etc. in moolam to begin with. When he started expanding his
> > > "who-am-I?' process in easier terms,
> > > traditional vedantins - read, advaitins - challenged him to provide
> > > scriptural proof. Bhagavan then conferred with some close scholars (
> > > guess, like Sri vashishta ganapathi muni)
> > > and was able to provide ample proof of congruency between what he was
> > > saying and what was in the major upanishads in essence.
> > Sri Bhagwan's realization is unique in the sense that it did not
> > precede the usual course of shravaNa, manana, nididhyAsana. Rather in
> > his case understanding came spontaneously. It was only later when
> > scriptures were read to him that he could correlate and verbalize his
> > understanding.
> > > The question I was asked was about documentation of this or anything
> in a
> > > similar vein in the early writings of the devotees of Bhagavan either
> > > tamizh or english.
> > The earliest recorded conversation is considered to be "Nan Yar".
> > However when it was shown to Sri Bhagwan before publication he
> > underlined several passages that were not his words, but Sri
> > Sivaprakash Pillai's understanding. However out of the respect for Sri
> > Pillai, Bhagwan did not delete those parts but instructed to publish
> > them in italics. I believe in many later versions this distinction is
> > not maintained.
> > Extensive research has been done on every single word spoken by Sri
> > Bhagwan. Sri Michael James, who himself is a Tamil and Sanskrit
> > scholar has given an exhaustive list of resources in the bibliography
> > section of his excellent book "Happiness and the Art of Being".
> > > The context was, I believe,
> > > to answer the question, 'can advaitic jnaana be obtained independent of
> > > knowledge of upanishads and brahma sutra'.
> > Sri Bhagwan maintained that there are already enough pointers
> > available about basic advaita principles in popular culture and
> > literature so that anyone with an average education has already been
> > exposed to the teachings. Therefore what is lacking in sAdhanA is
> > reflection and contemplation on the teaching, not the exposure. Thus
> > Sri Bhagwan did not give much importance to the formal study of
> > Upanishads and Brahma Sutras or any other text rather emphasized on
> > uninterrupted self attentiveness as means of realization.
> > It may however be of interest to note that even as per traditional
> > vedAnta, study of Upanishads and Brahma Sutras is not essential for
> > self realization. One can gain knowledge from prakaraNa grantha-s as
> > well. Sri Bhagwan's own writings are almost invariably in the nature
> > of prakaraNa grantha-s and many of his devotees - Indians and
> > Westerners alike - have produced brilliant vArtikA-s on them. Whether
> > Sri Bhagwan's devotees admit it or not they are actually doing shAstra
> > vichAra on Sri Bhagwan's writings with same zest and vigour that a
> > traditional vedAntin might do on a traditional prakaraNa grantha.
> > praNAm
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