[Advaita-l] Namaskar, please .I really need help for some confused

Ajit Krishnan ajit.krishnan at gmail.com
Mon Mar 19 14:09:15 CDT 2012


> I don't know why you think that the meaning is forced and unnatural.

Note: the electronic text is riddled with mistakes, but they don't
hamper readibility too much.

Let's take "hare kRShNa"

Meaning 1: he hare, he kRShNa.
Meaning 2: ha = shiva, r = devi, e = sUnya, r = vigraha || k =
kAmArUpiNii, R = kAminI vaiShNavii, Sh = 16 candramA kalA, N =
nirvRtti ||

Of the two, I find meaning 1 to be straightforward and more natural.
That is my perogative. If you find meaning 2 (from the rAdhA tantra)
to be straighforward and more natural, so be it. I have no quarrel.
Either way, trying to claim any particular meaning for a mantra to be
the "real meaning" is, IMO, a useless pursuit.

The perspective of this text is clear from the phrase from shiva
"harim tu tripurA sAkShAt mama mUrtir na samshayaH" (sic). IMO, even
from this perspective, it is more straightforward and natural to say
shiva = viShNu, and then interpret the names of viShNu as belonging to
viShNu with viShNu bhakti while maintaining aikyabhAva of viShNu and



On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Rajaram Venkataramani
<rajaramvenk at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Monday, March 19, 2012, Ajit Krishnan <ajit.krishnan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> namaste,
>>> ...  radha tantra  ...
>>> they don't teach the real meaning of the mantra ...
>>> in the hare krishna mantra, ha in hare refers to Siva and re to Parvathi
> :)
>> Out of curiosity, I searched and found this text in the "gaudiya
>> grantha mandira". Honestly, the meaning given is forced and unnatural.
>> This text also reads a visarga in the mantra and glosses it as "paraa
>> kuNDalinii".
>> sasneham,
>>    ajit
> I don't know why you think that the meaning is forced and unnatural. Please
> check the rules of chandas for gayatri in which this mantra is set.
> Kali Santarana Upanishad has Hare Rama version. There is living tradition
> in Guruvayoor where this version is chanted.
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