[Advaita-l] Books on Bhagawatham.
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Mon Jun 4 06:54:56 CDT 2012
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From: "Rajaram Venkataramani" <rajaramvenk at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Books on Bhagawatham.
> There was an opinion by Sri Sunil that Bhagavatham, Ramayana etc. needs no
> commentary. I gave the argument in favour of why commentary is required by
> quoting a verse from Ramayana that could be very wrongly misinterpreted as
> if Ravana succeeded in physically violating Sita. Vishnu, the Lord of
> Sringara rasa, not even Bharatha Muni, only knows what sringara rasa is
> being spoken of by Sri Vidyasankar or Sri Srikanta in this context.
> In addition to Agni's reassurances, Lord Rama confirms that Ravana could
> not even in his thoughts violate Sita leave alone touch her. Her pativrata
> dharmam protected her in toto. Now, Sri Sriram said that Sita was
> to Ravana carrying her from the forest. If Ravana succeeded in lustfully
> touching her even to kidnap, then Lord Rama's statement would be false
> he could not even touch her in thoughts. It will also falsify countless
> other statements in Ramayana that Sita was not physically or mentally
> violated. Valmiki himself explains in what mood Ravana carried her - like
> Budha, the son of Moon and Rohini, carrying his mother Rohini! Sita does
> not directly go to Ashoka Vana. She walks beside Ravana and surveys his
> palaces and treasury. What Ravana says in this context has two meanings.
> appears as if he is using his wealth to entice Sita but the other is in
> mood of child speaking to lokamata! It is part of tantra sastras to
> the deity as a child. But Ravana could not worship the deity as a lover as
> the deity (Sita) did not permit that. So, there was no Sringara Rasa
> between Ravana and Sita.
> On Sunday, June 3, 2012, Srikanta Narayanaswami wrote:
>> It is wrong to think that eroticism is unholy or atrocious. Within the
>> parameters of Indian literary and other artistic conventions, eroticism
>> something to be abhorred always. In fact, SRngAra is often said to be the
>> king of rasa-s in traditional Indian discussions of aesthetics. It is a
>> sign of
>> the continuing colonization of the Indian mind that many amongst us
>> at the very mention of SringAra. We have to stop alienating ourselves
>> our own culture.
>> Pranams.Well said Vidyashankarji.It is very much true that the continuous
>> colonisation of the Indian mind that many amongst us cringe at the very
>> mention of Sringara.Sringara rasa is also included in the Bharatha natya
>> sastra.It would be sheer hyprocrisy if we say that we donot entertain the
>> shringara rasa.
>> Recently,I had a chance to go on a piligrimage to Orissa.I visited
>> Puri,Konark and Bhuvaneshwar which has the famous Lingaraj temple.In all
>> these temples,erotic sculptures
>> are not only carved,but,also in solid form.I asked a Panda about the
>> sculptures.He said,"Ee Shraman hai"By his explanation,I could understand
>> that when Buddhism was spreading in these places,many youth abandoned
>> and family life and becames "Sramans"In order to discourage the youth
>> turning to ascetism
>> ,these sculptures were carved.Also,Tantric rituals were practiced in
>> temples.It was Ramanujacharya in the 12th century who tried to introduce
>> "Pancharatra"mode of worship.But,he could not succed.Even now,the
>> "Vaikhanasa'and Tantirc mode of worship is followed,without the "mithuna"
>> and "madhya"offering to the devotees.Instead of "madhya"devotees are
>> tender coconut water.The "Devadasi"natya was also abolished
>> years before.
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