[Advaita-l] Advaiti Response to this report?
vmurthy36 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 16 07:41:04 CST 2012
Mostly you are right. But it is not necessary to know sadness to know
happiness. Why? Happiness is our natural state. Sat Chit Ananda. Like
this Light is natural state. It is not necessary to know Darkness to
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 6:13 PM, abhishek sm <abhishek046 at gmail.com> wrote:
> If there were
> nothing but silence, it wouldn't
> exist for you; you wouldn't know
> what it is. Only when sound
> appears does silence come into
> being. Similarly, if there were only
> space without any objects in
> space, it wouldn't exist for you.
> Imagine yourself as a point of
> consciousness floating in the
> vastness of space - no stars, no
> galaxies, just emptiness. Suddenly,
> space wouldn't be vast anymore; it
> would not be there at all. There
> would be no speed, no movement
> from here to there. At least two
> points of reference are needed for
> distance and space to come into
> being. Space comes into being the
> moment the One becomes two,
> and as "two" become the "ten
> thousand things.
> But it is always the one that is the source of many.
> So to prove the existence of Brahman alone it is necessary to prove
> the non-existence of Maya.
> Only when a disciple is crystal clear of the notion of non-dual
> Brahman, he no longer tilts towards the maya aspect. Hence, Mayavada
> is required atleast in the beginning if not in the entire process.
> Sadly dvaitins waste their time debating the nature of Maya which
> triggers such unwanted debates.
> On 1/16/12, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Kalyan K <kalyankc.81 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Namaste Venkatesh-ji
>>>> But Advaitis are caught up in Mayavada only insted of Sadvada.
>>> Mayavada is generally used as a derogatory term by dvaitins and others
>>> against advaita. The real spirit of advaita is brahmavada, not
>>> mayavada. You will be doing a great disservice to advaita by calling
>>> it as mayavada. Yes, nothing is ever born or destroyed, because when
>>> eveything is brahman, the question of birth or death does not arise.
>>> This is brahmavada in its purest form. When you worship brahman in
>>> saguna form, like narayana or siva or sakti, the same priciple of
>>> brahmavada (seeing siva or narayana or sakti everywhere) will also
>>> lead you to the highest form of bhakti. That is why we have stalwarts
>>> like madhusudhana saraswati who are both advaitins and krishna-bhaktas
>>> at the same time. That is why Sri Sankara was able to compose both
>>> devotional works as well as works imparting jnana at the same time. I
>>> regret your fundamental misunderstanding of advaita.
>> I agree Brahmavada is the purest Advaita. But why not learn this pure
>> Brahmavada only? Mayavada is concentrating on something not Sat and it
>> is a disturbance because it makes the mind go away from Sat.
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