[Advaita-l] jivas' abode during deep sleep/praLaya

V Subrahmanian v.subrahmanian at gmail.com
Mon Dec 17 07:01:34 CST 2012

On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:

> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
> Here we can appreciate the 'adhyaaropa - apavAda' prakriyA.  Brahman is
> first taught as the cause (adhyAropa) and later this caushood is negated
> (apavAda).
> >  I think it is in this spirit only we have to read the kArikA bhAshya as
> well.  First of all, saguNatva itself is adhyArOpita on nirguNa,
> nirvishesha brahman and saguNa brahman is there for dhyAna and upAsana and
> it is ONLY vyAvahArika satya according to shankara bhAshya.  Since in
> sushupti, no vyavahAra is possible and nor there is any dvaita (as this is
> ekeebhuta, adviteeya, prajnAna ghana, upAdhirahita state), it is not fair
> to contextually say shankara talking about jeeva's mergence with ONLY
> 'saguNa brahma' and NOT nirguNa brahma in sushupti, since mAndUkya maNtra
> (2nd) itself talking about the mergence of jeeva with its 'svarUpa' in
> sushupti. And shankara himself, in somany other places, without giving any
> room for ambiguity, in clear terms,

In fact there can hardly be a more unambiguous statement and detailed
explanation by Shankara than the one cited in the Mandukya kaarikaa bhashya
on the state of the merger during sushupti.  He gives the extra detail in
the meaning of the 'prANa bandhanam hi somya manaH' of the Chandogya, goes
on to explicitly say that only in true realization we have to understand
the Sat as 'freed' from kAraNatva (saguNatva).  So, Shankara is very
explicit, most unambiguous here.  In fact this is the best reference for
everyone in the matter of deciding the state of the jiva in suShupti.


> states that jeeva's mergence in
> sushupti is with that ekamevAdviteeya brahman.  For example in sUtra
> bhAshya 3-2-7, brahma tu anapAyi suptisthAnaM ityetadpratipAdayAmaH, tana
> tu vijnAnena prayOjanamasti jeevasya brahmAtmatva avadhAraNaM cha,
> tasmAdAtmaiva supti sthAnaM.  Here if we interpret brahma here as saguNa
> brahma, then jeeva would realize his svarUpa as 'saguNa brahman' and not
> nirvishesha brahman!!  Which is quite untenable according to siddhAnta.
> >  Would like to share more about this topic...but in leisure time...
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
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