[Advaita-l] Vegetarianism

Rajaram Venkataramani rajaramvenk at gmail.com
Sun Apr 15 14:20:42 CDT 2012

On Sunday, April 15, 2012, श्रीमल्ललितालालितः wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 14:52, <rajaramvenk at gmail.com <javascript:_e({},
> 'cvml', 'rajaramvenk at gmail.com');>> wrote:
>   First of all, you skipped the duty to define hiMsA.
It is obvious. An act which causes pain is himsa. There is inadvertent
himsa as in walking that may kill very small insects and inevitable himsa
as in a righteous war and yajna done selflessly for greater good.

> BTW, you can only eat food cooked offered in yajna or you eat sin. It does
>> not matter if you are a kshatriya or a brahmana.
> That supports shAstrIya definition of hiMsA.
I am not opposed to shAstrIya definition on ahimsa. You don't need shastras
to define what is himsa. If I slap you, we will know it is himsa. We don't
need dharma shastras to tell us that. We need dharma shastras only to tell
us when himsa is allowed.

> How many yajnas involve animal sacrifice? None of the daily and mandatory
>> ones do. So, there is no room for animal killing for just satisfying the
>> tongue.
> It's not a poll booth where we count votes. So, number of yaGYa-s which
> involve or not is not important at all.
> It is extremely important. None of the mandatory yajnas involve animal
sacrifice. The yajnas that involve animal sacrifice are not mandatory. They
involve specific rules on who can do, when, why and even how the remnants
are to be shared. There is no room for running slaughterhouses.

>  We will reform UK and then come to UP :)
> Actually, there is a work by vishvanAtha pa~nchAnana which is named -
> mAMsatattvavivekaH. It supports eating non-veg and is based on
> dharma-shAstra-s, itihAsa, purANa, etc. It was written to refute south
> indian view that no hindu(esp. brAhmaNa-s) should eat mAMsa. People of
> mithilA and ba~NgAla still follow shAstra-s in this respect. People of
> kAshI are not too different and so they eat mAMsa, etc.
> Your social reform is definitely not a shAstrIya one. So, shAstrIya people
> don't need them.
> And, you will be unable to reply to objections of common people, as that
> of abhishek's friend.
> So, you must try some reforms to your views.
People eat meat because it satisfies their tongue. If someone tells that
sastras allow that, they will accept it because it makes them feel less
guilty. The instruction of Lord Krishna and Sankara in this matter is
crystal clear. Are the people who are eating meat performing yajna
according to Kalpa sutras? We know they don't and as per our sastras they
verily eat sin. They will suffer the karmic reaction. Those of you who
 mislead the ignorant using the respect that your position as a brahmana or
sannyasi gets you.

If the grace of Ishwara can bring about change in the UK, have no doubts
that it will change UP. If at all you get mamsa as bhiksha, please start
training your tongue to accept rice, roti, dhal etc. Kashi is on the radar
for change.

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