[Advaita-l] Scholarly Article on Why Vedas are Valid
satisharigela at yahoo.com
Fri Oct 14 04:45:20 CDT 2011
>How do we logically establish?
> 1. There are super-sensuous entities such as the Devas
Not sure about logically establishing them, but devata-s are experienced by upAsaka-s. I seriously doubt if you can logically establish them.
> 2. Vedas are pramana for studying these super-sensuous objects
veda is not the only pramANa for these(devata-s in specific). Because people from other cultures and Hindu-like religions experience some of the devata-s in similar, if not in the same manner as upAsaka-s from the Hindu world. And the best part is, the experience of the deities as also the effects of rituals involving the invocation of these deities can be repeated with same or similar results.
The best example is gaNapati.
From: Rajaram Venkataramani <rajaramvenk at gmail.com>
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I was perhaps not clear on what I wanted. It is easy - sort of of - to
establish pratyaksha and anumana as pramanas. Empiricism relies on
observation of facts about the external world and logical inference. For
objects that cannot be seen with naked senses (e.g. electrons), one can come
up with a hypothesis which can be validated through experimentation
(observation) and it becomes a theory. We can build on theories to come up
with complex theories.
Now, there are unseen entities (devas, isvara, results of karma, other
worlds etc.). The existence of these and theories about them are based on
Vedas, which have been accepted as axiomatic truths. I am less concerned
about apaureshyatvam or anaditvam of the Vedas. I am concerned with
How do we logically establish?
1. There are super-sensuous entities such as the Devas
2. Vedas are pramana for studying these super-sensuous
2011/10/12 श्रीमल्ललितालालितः <lalitaalaalitah at gmail.com>
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> On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 21:08, Rajaram Venkataramani
> <rajaramvenk at gmail.com>wrote:
> > This is a question for shri lalitaalaalitah. My sanskritist friend
> > through your blog and said he could not find any article that presents
> > arguments in favour of why Vedas are valid as pramana. If you do have
> > can you
please send the specific links?
> Sorry for not being clear.
> I've no post regarding apauruSheyatva of veda-s on my blog.
> That's correctly pointed by your friend.
> But, I didn't ever say that I've those.
> I said that there is a big essay (book) by swAmI hariharAnanda saraswatI jI
> (karapAtri ji) on these subjects. It was published in two volumes, each
> containing 700+ pages. You can see that for logic supporting
> of veda-s and refutation of dayAnanda(Arya-samAja), max muker, etc.
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