[Advaita-l] Pitrupaksha questions
shyam_md at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 2 09:45:16 CDT 2011
Thank you for your response.
My question to you was - according to Sankara - what if any, is the effect of nonperformance of nityakarmas.
Sifting your through your response I was able to pick up "hence nonperformance of nitya karmas cannot produce ANY phala. Hence they need not be performed."
Such a view is incorrect and a reading of the relevant section of the Taittiriya Up bhashya, where this parrticular topic is treated at great length, may help you understand why.
Which brings me to my subsequent question:
Based on Shankara's views "can a grhastha continue in that ahsrama and discharge his duties towards his family - earn a livelihood, own a house, have a bankbalance - with the abiding nishta of Oneness in Brahman, and avoid nitya/naimittika karmas as they serve him no end, and since mentally he is akarta?"
--- On Sat, 10/1/11, Srikanta Narayanaswami <srikanta.narayanaswami at yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: Srikanta Narayanaswami <srikanta.narayanaswami at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Advaita-l] Pitrupaksha questions
> To: "advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
> Date: Saturday, October 1, 2011, 9:03 AM
> Message Body
> I find you have completely avoided answers to all three
> questions. It will be helpful to keep your answers direct
> and relevant to the question, so your point of view is
> Let me repeat my questions one at a time, in the hope that
> this time around your answers are direct and relevant.
> > there is no pratyavaya incurred by
> > its nonperformance"
> > This is true.
> > Do you know if Sankara talks about what, if any, then
> > the effect of nonperformance of nitya karmas?
> Hari OM
> I donot know whether you have followed my answers carefully
> and seriously.If you have studied the B.G
> these questions will not arise.The B.G clearly
> states"Pratyavayo na vdyate!".
> I donot know whether you have sarefully studied and
> followed,SriShankara Bhagawathpada's commentary on the
> relevant section of performing nitya karmas.He clearly
> explains this in his commentary to the slokah:
> "Karmani akarma yah pashyeth,akarmani karma yah!
> sah Buddhiman manushyeshu,sa yuktah krstna karma krt!!"
> You read the commentary by SriShankara Bhagawathpada where
> he takes up the question of non-performance of nitya
> karmas.A vrttikara(most probably)a Bhedha-abhedha
> vadin,Bhatrprapanca.He quotes the view of this
> vrttikara.this vrttikara states that Nitya karmas even
> though it may avoid pratyavaya,they are treated as
> Akarma,because these nitya karmas are called akarmas,in the
> same way as a nonmilking cow,though it is a-gou is called a
> gau(cow,just for name sake-Gauna),these nitya karmas though
> they have no phala is called A-karma.In the same way, this
> nitya karma has to be treated.
> For this Sri.Shankara Bhagawathpada answers,quoting from
> the B.G "Na sato vidyate Bhavah,na abhavo vidyate satah"a
> non-performance cannot produce any fruit(phala)since an
> asath cannot produce any thing.There is no such thing as a
> horns of a hare or son of a barren woman.hence
> nonperformance of nitya karmas cannot produce any
> phala.Hence they need not be performed.This is the starting
> point of knowing Jnana that Karmas cannot produce any
> result.The mundaka shruthi also substantiates this to one
> whao wants to know as;
> "Pareekshya lokan karmacitan nirvedamayath Brahmano nasti
> akrtam krtena
> tena vijnanartham sa Gurureva abhigacceth samith panih
> shrotriyam Brahmanishtam"
> The Shruthi lies emphasis on "pareekshya lokan karmacitan
> nirvedamayath"one has to unlearn whatever he has learnt from
> the karma khandha.In order to know the higher, he has to
> approach a Guru who is a shrotriya(who knows the purport of
> the vedas) and also Brahmanishtam(well established in
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