[Advaita-l] additional doubts!!

annasmurthy . annasmurthy at sify.com
Tue Jul 12 21:29:20 CDT 2011

>From : H.N.Sreenivas Murthy
  Pranams to all.

    The following upanishad mantras may throw light on the questions posed
by Sri Bhaskar:

sa EvedagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-1

ahamEvEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-1

AtmaivEdagM sarvam || Chandogya 7-25-2

sarvaM KalvidaM brahma || Chandogya 3-14-1

sarvagM hyEtadbrahma || Mandukya  maMtra 2

brahmaivEdaM viSvaM variShThaM || muMdaka 2-2-12

What is the significance of  the word 'idaM' and ' sarvaM ' ? Does it not
include ALL?

    Let us all ponder over it and get the answers.

       It is because Vedanta has been tagged on to Hindu Religion  these
kinds of questions like. whether one  astika or nastika , religious or
irreligious can get jnana arise.

       It is better if we approach Vedanta as human beings and not as a
person belonging to a particular sect, religion or sex.


With warm and respectful regards,
          Sreenivasa Murthy

On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:

> praNAms
> Hare Krishna
> After reading bhakti's role in advaita vedAnta, I am getting some
> additional doubts with regard to 'required tools' or qualifications  to
> obtain paramArtha jnAna.
> (a) is advaita paramArtha  jnAna happens only to Astika-s (theists) who
> have firm belief in god & scriptures??
> (b) how can a non-hindu or atheist (nAstika) or any 'outsider', who does
> not want to believe in god & scriptures, but would like to get this jnAna
> (without the aid of shAstra & bhagavanta or outside the traditional
> circle) ??  dont we have any jnAni-s outside hindu Astika saMpradAya ??
> (c) prior to jnAna, is it mandatory requirement for the advaita sAdhaka to
> believe in god's existence & to have unconditional faith in sacred hindu
> scriptures or whether he has to  be a hard core theist ??
> (d) if the (c) is an indispensable requirement for the jnAna  then advaita
> jnAna realization would be restricted ONLY to the sAdhaka-s in hindu
> religion in general and theists in particular.  In that case advaita jnAna
> has the limited boundaries in hindu god & scriptures.
> (e) if the (c) is not a necessary requirement then we cannot say
> shravaNAdi sAdhana are the only  direct means for realization..And further
> this would prompt us to say, anybody, at any point of time through any
> means can get this realization..this stand  goes against the convictions
> held by sampradAyavit-s.
> (f) finally, can a person be a non-dual jnAni but still a nAstika??
> Any clarification from the prabhuji-s would be appreciated.
> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
> bhaskar
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