[Advaita-l] Is Isvara paramartika?
bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com
Mon Aug 8 00:27:09 CDT 2011
Sri Subrahmanian: Ishwara is definitely not the absolute; He is relative
the created world and the jivas.
RV: I raised this question earlier and the following is the answer from
Devanathan, an academic scholar with traditional training. It is from
77 Issue 9. Prof. Lance Nelson (University of San Diego) takes the
that you do. Dr. Sanjukta Gupta Gombrich (Oxford) also takes the position
that Isvara is relative though she states that there is difference in the
position between vartika and vivarana schools. My position is that Isvara
absolute but not for the reasons that Sri Devanathan states. In my view,
should be based on direct textual evidence for the definition of Isvara
pre and post Sankaran advaitins resolving apparent conflicts through
Kindly refer shankara's AraMbhaNAdhikaraNa sUtra bhAsya with regard to
this. Shankara quite explicitly mentions here that Ishwara, IshwaratvaM
etc. holds good only at transactional level where jevEshwara bedha is
there!! tadevaM avidyAtmakOpAdhiparicchedApekshameva Ishwarasya
IshvaratvaM, sarvajnatvaM, sarvashaktitvaM cha..." na paramArthataH
vidyayA apAstasarvOpAdhisvarUpe Atmani Ishtreeshitavya sarvajnatvAdi
vyavahAraH upapadyate. No ambiguity here in shankara's declaration. He
clearly states that the existence of Ishwara and his qualities like
omnipotence, omniscience etc. are only in the realm of avidyA. So, IMO,
before deciding anything about Ishwara's paramArta astitva (absolute
existence) , we have to reconcile these statements of shankara and most
importantly without disturbing the shruti-s and advaita's ultimate
position i.e. Atman's ekamevAdviteeyatva.
Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
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