[Advaita-l] Does Brahman know?
sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
Fri Nov 26 13:22:32 CST 2010
You are right. In the Turiya state one attains the Oneness, albeit for the duration of that time oif deep sleep and there is nothing to be known. Permanent oneness is realized only after the final fall of the body, ie. when one is beyond the cycle of birth and death.
"Sarvam khalvidam Brahma". So which object other than Him He needs to know? Is there anything else other than Himself to know.? Does He need eyes like ours to see objects or does he need ears like ours to hear sounds of this world? Any efforts to describe Brahman's whys and hows will be futile. The answer will be only Neti Neti. Kena tells us that It is because of Him that our ears can enable us to hear and because of Him that our eyes can enable us to hear etc.
Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
--- On Fri, 11/26/10, Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Venkatesh Murthy <vmurthy36 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Does Brahman know?
To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Friday, November 26, 2010, 1:30 AM
About Turiya they say Kevalam Asti Iti Vaktum Sakyam. We can say only
It is. Knowing something is only at Vyavahara level because there
should be knower and known thing. In Turiya Avastha there is only One
thing There is no knower and no known thing also. There is nothing to
know. Any comments?
On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 11:17 AM, srikanta <srikanta at nie.ac.in> wrote:
> With reference to the above topic,the Sruthis and the smrtis say that
> "Brahman is all knowing"."Drstaram drste viparilopo na vidyate",there is
> no "lopa"or mitigation for one who is all knowing.The Brahman has been
> categorised as ,the "Drk",with which all things become known.It is like
> the electric current,which cannot be seen by eyes,but,whose presence can
> be felt.
> The description of the "Turiya"in the Mandukyopanishad,negates all the
> conceptions of the "Vaishwanara"of the Jagrt state,the "Taijasa" of the
> svapna state and finally the "Prajna"of the sushupti state.The fourth
> state is "amatra","avyavaharyah",but nowhere the Upanishad says it is not
> knowing.It is "Suryavat prakashah".
> Archives: http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/
> To unsubscribe or change your options:
> For assistance, contact:
> listmaster at advaita-vedanta.org
To unsubscribe or change your options:
For assistance, contact:
listmaster at advaita-vedanta.org
More information about the Advaita-l mailing list