[Advaita-l] Antaryami Vishnu & anya devatas.

Venkatesh Murthy vmurthy36 at gmail.com
Mon Nov 8 06:39:18 CST 2010

One more joke I heard talking to a pious Madhva lady. Vadiraja
defeated Appaiah Deekshita in debate. I smiled but not laugh because
she is my mother's friend.

Joke Prediction - In 2110 Madhvas will show evidence Sri Vidyasankara
Sri V Subrahmanian and Sri Jaldhar Vyas were defeated in debate by
Madhva list members N.A.P.S. Rao and Shrisha Rao. The referee was
Sadagopan. He gave verdict to say Madhvas won.



On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 11:53 AM, krishna koundinya
<cosmonautkk at gmail.com> wrote:
> Pranam to everyone.
>                              Thank you for all your beautiful answers
> on the topic.
> Sri Subrahmanian ji,
>  thank you for the information about the book.
> 1) But as a reply we see that a book written by "Sri Raghuvijaya
> Tirtharu" named  "Sri Akshobhya Vijaya Vaibhava", wherein he has
> answered the critics of Sri Akshobhya Tirtharu. This is the Khandana
> grantha for the advaitha grantha which had tried to condemn Akshobhya
> Tirtharu. The book contains 175 pages, with detailed analysis as to
> how the vagvaada took place, and who were all the witness for the
> vagvaada, with facts and figures. Atleast they claim so.
> I did not read either of the books so I am ignorant of the topic..
> 2)  This episode is said to be seen in the book named “Vedantadeshika
> Vaibhava prakashika” written by Doddayyacharya wherein it is claimed
> that this actually took place.
> 3) Also there is an article in Mysore Archeological Survey Department
> published in 1886 which claims that At Mulbagil in inscription in
> Grantha characters on a boulder was brought to notice which appears to
> record the fact of a refutation of Vidyaranya by Akshobhya Tirtha, in
> some public dsputation. But the inscription has been lately purposely
> destroyed, so that a few letters remain visible. The above account of
> its contents is given by pesons who saw it before it was damaged and
> who had made a copy of it.
> Please enlighten me on these topics.
> 4) quoting from your words
> "Atman has no form.  It is nitya, nirvikAri, sarvagataH.  That which is
> infinite, all-pervading cannot have any form.  Any form will limit the
> Atman".
> I am a smartha brahmin & I think I understand some of the basic tenets
> of advaita tradition. I am looking for strong vedic pramanas that
> explicitly state these that " Atman has no form or gunas". Are there
> any verses in the Vedas that state this directly ( without depending
> on inferences).??
> 5) With my very limited knowledge  I was talking to some Madhva
> followers, they told me that " NIrguna"="Nir" + Guna", which does not
> mean that without attributes or gunas,  but it is something beyond
> comprehension but attributes do stay. It could have been stated as
> "Aguna" instead of nirguna.Now I am not good in sanskrit so I am at a
> loss.
> Now  I want to know is there a difference between "nirguna" & "aguna".
> If so what is it?? and does nirguna actually means without attributes.
> or is there anything else? like for eg" Nirvikara or Nirvikalpa etc.
> 6) I was also told that as an answer to Sri Madhusudana Saraswati
> swamy's "Advaita Siddhi" , Sripad Ramachandra Tirtha wrote "Tarangini"
> which refuted all the arguments in "Advaita Siddhi". I also heard of
> "advaita tatva sudha" but they maintain that it is not up to the
> standards or it is not a good refutation with some loop holes etc. How
> should we understand this?
> 7) I found that Yoga Vashistha is being refuted while it is full of
> advaitic content.
> http://chiraan.wordpress.com/2009/10/12/refutation-of-yoga-vashishtha-sara/
> How should we take this ??
> Thank you
> krishna
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