[Advaita-l] The Human aspect of Jnanis - 5 (Concluded)
mahesh.ursekar at gmail.com
Thu Jul 22 09:08:36 CDT 2010
Sorry, my last statement was incorrect. Here is the correct one (in bold
The answer ought to be to the question - can a Jnani's work be *fallible*?
If yes, we will be forced to take Advaita also as a view (however exalted),
The Truth being upheld only with silence?
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Mahesh Ursekar <mahesh.ursekar at gmail.com>wrote:
> Pranams Sri Subrahmanian:
> If the BMI of a Jnani is the the author of a work such as a Bhasya (or
> something independent), then is it infallible? This was the reason for my
> original question - can we hold the Vivekachoodamani on the same level as
> the Vedas as regards Truth? Or is the former open to error? It is likely
> that a follower of Madhvacharaya would have such a view on Sankaracharya's
> works. How would an Advaitin then answer?
> And I don't mean an answer such as
> (a) Sankaracharya's Bhashya is more consistent with Shurti than
> Madhvacharayas (this debate has been going on for centuries now) or
> (b) Claim of Sri Krishnamurty's - Madhvacharaya is not self realized
> (possibly dogmatic)
> (c) Claim of Sri Krishnamurty's - Advaita is avirodha (see objections to
> that in my reply to him)
> The answer ought to be to the question - can a Jnani's work be infallible?
> If yes, we will be forced to take Advaita also as a view (however exalted),
> The Truth being upheld only with silence?
> Thanks, Mahesh
> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 5:28 PM, V Subrahmanian <v.subrahmanian at gmail.com>wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:45 PM, Mahesh Ursekar
>> <mahesh.ursekar at gmail.com>wrote:
>> > Pranams Sri Subrahmanian:
>> > Thanks for your enlightening post. The state of a self-realized soul is
>> > indeed hard to explain and you have nicely brought out the many problems
>> > associated with it.
>> > I would like to add one more problem, which, I think, has not been
>> > by your posts. When a person such as this writes a spiritual treatise -
>> > it be the Brahma Sutra or the Vivekachoodamani - who is the author of
>> > Is
>> > it the BMI of the individual? If yes, it will not be Shruti (or revealed
>> > text i.e. work without authorship).
>> Any work written be it the Brahma Sutras by Badarayana or the Bhashya by
>> Bhagavatpada Shankara is essentially 'pUreSheya'. They have been authored
>> by the author, a person. Only the BMI can be an author of any work. So,
>> these works are not 'apaurusheya' Shruti. Other than BMI we can think of
>> only the Atman. Atman cannot author anything as it is devoid of any
>> (agency) since there is no apparatus called the mind, intellect, sense
>> organs and motor organs like hands for the Atman.
>> We regard the above mentioned works as authored by realized persons.
>> cannot author any work; a Jnani can.
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