[Advaita-l] On the history of Bharathavarsha

Anbu sivam2 anbesivam2 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 18 05:12:24 CST 2010

If my info is correct,  glaciation, its time frame and extent in terms of
areas are to a great deal a geological speculation and in any case it, the
glaciation, remained closer to the poles and those protogonists never said
it extended to Bharathavarsha.  So are we trying to valuate one speculation
with another?!

On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 11:56 PM, Shrinivas Gadkari
<sgadkari2001 at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Namaste to everyone with sraddhA in purANa-s,
> I completely agree with Jaldhar. While we should certainly burn within
> due to the insults inflicted on us by gross distortions of our history we
> better direct this "agni" to a more thorough, systematic and holistic
> evaluation of our historical accounts.
> Here are some thoughts about which I have convinced myself with whatever
> little study/ readings I have been able to undertake.
> 1. We must take the end of last ice age which occurred around 10,000 BC
> very seriously. Manu vaivasta corresponds to this time. Indra-s killing of
> vRtra very likely refers to central role played by indra in mass scale
> melting
> of glaciers around the globe.
> 2. Pre 10,000 BC history recorded in the purANa-s most likely crosses the
> limits of India. We should be open to possibilities that some of the
> incidents
> in this era happened elsewhere.
> 3. Periods of yugas in purANa-s are given as 4800, 3600, 2400, 1200 divine
> years
> for satya, tretA, dvApAra and kalI respectively. For the time being, if we
> ignore
> the word divya (divine) and count these as years, and postulate that we are
> at
> the end of kali yuga, the beginning of previous satya yuga falls around
> 10,000 BC.
> 4. After the great floods that followed the end of ice age the civilization
> was
> thoroughly disturbed/ dispersed. If at all the was migration of Vedic
> culture it was
> around this time (not into India but into other lands).
> 5. We should be open to evaluating possibility of centers of vedic culture
> in pre
> 10,000 BC being on lands that are currently under sea. Not to say there was
> no vedic culture in India then, but admit the possibility that  equally
> large
> vedic cultures existed elsewhere. Also be open to the possibility that
> ancient
> Egypt and Greek cultures may be evolutions from this ancient Vedic culture
> after the disruption/ dispersion around the time of great floods.
> Regards,
> Shrinivas
> ------------------------------------
> I just want to address this bit.  First of all, let's be clear that
> Vidyashankar's effort is not "to pit one Matam against another" but to
> understand the truth about Indian history and you should be ashamed to say
> such a thing.  It is true that unscrupulous people do twist legitimate
> research for their own agendas.  Does that mean we should the same?  On
> the contrary such people should be encouraged to use these sources as much
> as possible.  Have you heard the proverb "sunlight is the best
> disinfectant"?
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