[Advaita-l] APerspective 17-2
anbesivam2 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 1 16:40:52 CST 2010
Please read it as *dhukka saagaram*. The other spelling would change the
On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:41 AM, Anbu sivam2 <anbesivam2 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Dear Bhaskarji,
> You can have two and if both of them can give you sukham then you are not
> going to reject any. The driving force in the samsaara is its dhukkam.
> How did this dhukka samsaaram arise? No one can say. But it is known to
> be kept alive by the intellect. Actually your war is with your own
> intellect by the intellect!
> This is because you have realized that the world is *dhukka saaharam*.
> This is the starting point of your 'realization'.
> You asked the question: "Yes, sharaNAgati at the guru pAda kamala can (be)
> possible only in the case
> of TWO in vyavahAra is it not?? "
> Hope you are reading my commentaries on Sivaanandalahari. Adi Sankara has
> dealt with that in his own unique style.
> Aum Namasivaaya!
> On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com> wrote:
>> Hare Krishna
>> Logically correct but practically never feasible for only one exists in
>> (or out of it) - not both!
>> > Again it is possible in that invicible 'vyAvahArika
>> satya':-))...example eyes may see the curved stick in the water but your
>> hand can feel the not curved nature of that same stick!!..one more, though
>> the underlying truth of hammer, base plate and rod hammered to flatten is
>> 'metal' or steel its practical utility differs in vyAvahArika jagat :-))
>> Likewise, ONE paramAtma can appear as bhOktru, bhOjya & bhOktavya..nothing
>> wrong in that in vyavahAra:-))
>> You need *TWO* to say that one is real and the other is false. The
>> intellect will never apprehend the Reality, can it?
>> > Again, in vyavahAra there are really two but in reality the underlying
>> truth of these TWO is ONE.
>> As far the aathman there had never been an 'unrealized' state to leap into
>> a change.
>> > yes, but in Sri Sadananda prabhuji's words : "running is required to
>> know 'there is no need to run" :-))
>> Thus the surrender to the Guru only is important, nothing else.
>> > Yes, sharaNAgati at the guru pAda kAmala can possible only in the case
>> of TWO in vyavahAra is it not?? If the 'unrealized' state had never been
>> there in this vyavahAra there would have been no guru, no shishya, no
>> shAstra vAkya..is it not?? Two different compartments & two different
>> stuff in it..we cannot mix it & got ourselves confused :-))
>> Hari Hari Hari Bol!!!
>> Archives: http://lists.advaita-vedanta.org/archives/advaita-l/
>> To unsubscribe or change your options:
>> For assistance, contact:
>> listmaster at advaita-vedanta.org
More information about the Advaita-l mailing list