[Advaita-l] A vichAra on Swatantra & Paratantra (Independent & dependent Realities)
shrao at nyx.net
Sat Apr 10 09:13:45 CDT 2010
El abr 10, 2010, a las 6:56 p.m., V Subrahmanian escribió:
> One cannot expect the Madhva school to accept vyavaharika satya.
Sure, which is precisely the point. I also do wonder if your theories are even accurate as per Advaita, because you have invested Vishnu, the qualified Brahman, with पारमार्थिक-सत्यत्व, whilst the classical Advaitic authors (e.g., Madhusudana Saraswati that I am aware of) regard only the निर्गुण as being so, and the सगुण as also व्यावहारिक like the world. Thus, you have achieved the feat of coming up with a Vedantic theory that is unacceptable to Advaitins as well as Dvaitins.
> However, I found the following excerpt very much in tune with the Advaitic
> interpretation of the 'वाचारम्भणश्रुतिः’:
> // The dependence of the world of matter and the souls on Brahman is in the
> sense that both are functioning at His will, which is the essential
> condition and sustaining principle *that invests them with their reality and
> without which they would be but void names and bare possibilities. //
> *Of course, it is easy to dismiss this also as not accurate.
That's correct, it of course is. They would not even be names or bare possibilities without Brahman's will. In any case, I don't think that is particularly close to the Advaitic interpretation. A proper excerpt of Madhva's view on that Shruti (which should be the sense conveyed by that URL) would be:
"वाचारम्भणं विकारो नामधेयं मृत्तिकेत्येव सत्यम्" (छा.उ. ६.१.४) इत्यत्र च `वाचा' नाम्नां `आरम्भणम्', `विकारः' अविकृतं नित्यं `नामधेयम् मृत्तिकेत्येव' इत्येतद्वचनं `सत्यं', इति श्रुत्यर्थः । न च `वाचारम्भण'शब्दोऽपि मिथ्यात्वे प्रसिद्धः | `वाचारम्भणमात्रम्' इति च अश्रुतकल्पनम् | तस्मिन्पक्षे, `नामधेय'शब्दः, `इति'शब्दश्च व्यर्थस्स्यात्? अतो, न कुत्रापि जगतो मिथ्यात्वमुच्यते |
> Regarding the Madhva interpretation of the Bhagavad Gita II-12 (नत्वेवाहं
> जातु नासं न त्वं नेमे जनाधिपाः) there exists an article in the Advaita L
> website where some comments are available -
A decent effort, but it should be improved with a proper study of the original sources, rather than taking off from some other summary.
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