sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 16 08:18:30 CDT 2009
Any comment on Harita allowing upanayana for women.
Sunil K. Bhattacharjya
--- On Thu, 7/16/09, Krunal Makwana <makwanakb at googlemail.com> wrote:
From: Krunal Makwana <makwanakb at googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Gayatri?
To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Thursday, July 16, 2009, 2:10 AM
Jai Siya Ram
I think there are two issues here, vedic bodha and veda adhyayana.
vedic bodha can be distributed to anyone regardless of any discrimination as
long as the individual is adhikari to the knowledge. Hence during with the
upanishadic era we had mighty female sages such as Gargi etc.
veda adhyayana on the other hand is only given to those with adhikara +
upanayana sanskara. Here there is no if or buts, it's as simple as that.
as with regards to sruti verses within smriti texts, these are fine for
non-dvijas to recite, reason being these texts were specifically made for
the mass population. vyasadeva would not have included these in puranas if
this was not the case. Also if i remember correctly there is a puranaic
purusha sukta which is can be recited by all.
2009/7/16 Bhaskar YR <bhaskar.yr at in.abb.com>
> Even the staunchest orthodox person will acknowledge that non-dvijas are
> of the nature of
> Brahman and can and do possess such qualities. The question of adhikara
> to recite vedanta vakyas is orthogonal.
> praNAms Sri Jaldhar prabhuji
> Hare Krishna
> Thanks for your clarifications...Kindly bear with my fussy nature
> here..prabhuji. Do you mean to say here those non-dvija-s who have enough
> dhi shakti & viveka to do brahma jignAsa can do so through smruti & purANa
> texts without taking the reference from shruti-s/vedAnta?? Kindly let me
> know, whether this vedAdhikAra restricted to ONLY recitation of veda
> maNtra-s with 'svara-s' (intonations) or plain reading of the vedic text
> itself?? Why I am asking this question is, some veda maNtra-s do appear
> in smruti texts. for exmaple some of the kathopanishad maNtra-s appear in
> smruti text geeta. Can a non-dvija read these lines plainly, without any
> svara-s and do manana on it prabhuji?? If the answer is yes, then we have
> to say the restriction of vedAdhikAra specifically restricted to proper
> recitation of veda maNtra-s with intonations.
> HariHari Hari Bol!!!
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