[Advaita-l] Conference on that Date of Adi SankaracharyainOctober, 2002

sriram srirudra at vsnl.com
Thu Dec 31 20:12:58 CST 2009

Dear Members
Iam at a loss to understand why this debate whether Sringeri Mutt is the 
most relliable one in deciding the date of birth/period of life of the great 
Acharya.This type of ping pong discussions crop up in this forum from time 
to time.All mutts are great in their own way.It is akin to fight that my 
God/religion is the best and others are trash.Let us not waste time in these 
non important matters is my opinion.R.Krishnamoorthy.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sunil Bhattacharjya" <sunil_bhattacharjya at yahoo.com>
To: "A discussion group for Advaita Vedanta" 
<advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2009 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Conference on that Date of Adi 
SankaracharyainOctober, 2002

Dear Vidyasankarji,
At the outset I wish you and all the members of the Advaita forum a happy 
new year.
I am interested in knowing the true date of Adi Sankaracharya. I have the 
highest respect for the Sringeri math and I visited that math and I have not 
visited the Dwarka and the Puri math uptill now. Hope that will convince you 
about the regards I have for the Sringeri math. I did visit the Kudali 
Sringeri math also and I was lucky to have the darshan of mother Sarada 
there at the confluence of Tunga and Bhadra.
I also have respect for the Sankaracharyas of the Dwarka and the Puri maths. 
The Sankaracharyas of all the maths are holy persons and I respect them all. 
But my science training does not allow me to relish the different dates 
upheld by the different maths. I wish all the important people of all the 
maths established by Adi Sankara meet together to sort out the differences 
to arrive at a common date. If however we cannot agree to a common date can 
we not amicably agree to disagree?
I came to Mumbai on December 7 last. If you send me the address an the 
telephone number of your brother I would be able to contact him for the book 
by Shastri so that I can have look at that.
As regards the Sankara Vijaya you referred to are you sure it was written by 
Vidyaranya Swami himself an not by his namesake and do you think the great 
Tantric Abhinabhagupta, referred to in that, was from Kamarupa and not from 
I was in touch with Gowrisankarji of the Sringeri math a few times in the 
past and there was another person with whom I had some correspondence but I 
do not recall his name now.
Hope mother Sarada will guide us in this endeavour to satisfy ourselves 
regarding the date of Adi Sankaracharya.
Looking forward to hearing from you and with regards,
Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

--- On Wed, 12/30/09, Vidyasankar Sundaresan <svidyasankar at hotmail.com> 

From: Vidyasankar Sundaresan <svidyasankar at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Advaita-l] Conference on that Date of Adi Sankaracharya in 
October, 2002
To: "Advaita List" <advaita-l at lists.advaita-vedanta.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 30, 2009, 9:05 AM

Dear Mr. Bhattacharjya,

Really, you are insulting my intelligence and patience with your questions. 
Please decide whether you are
interested in

a. the date of Sankaracharya,
b. casting aspersions on the Sringeri lineage
c. upholding the traditions of any other lineage(s)
d. upholding the faulty claims of the contested Kudali lineage
e. any of the combinations of the above.

Once you have decided what it is you want to do, please let us know. It 
seems to me you belong squarely
to the faction which is interested in throwing as much mud as possible at 
the Sringeri record, in the hope that
something sticks. I firmly decline to engage in this thread with you after 
this post. As I mentioned earlier, this
thread is moving in unexpected and unnecessary directions and I don't intend 
to contribute to it much further.
Every single one of your questions has been dealt with at length, numerous 
times in the past on this list,
including in this very thread. In my previous post, I used the word 
"arguably" with respect to the authenticity
of the Sringeri tradition, merely because I allow that others can have 
differing opinions about it and I defend
their right to hold their opinions, no matter how different they may be from 
my opinions and no matter how
wrong these opinions may be. I can only exercise my right to share what I 
know of the matter and sometimes
I choose not to, because it is often a futile exercise.

A few other points:

One, you can figure out for yourself about the origins of the Vikrama Samvat 
in India.

Two, you can go back to one of my previous posts on this very thread about 
the Sringeri stand on dates.

Three, have some respect for the tradition. Do not assume that scholars at 
Sringeri (or anybody else, for
that matter) have nothing better to do than to keep responding to your pesky 
emails. I am unaware which
scholars you have tried contacting at Sringeri. I, as you well know, am not 
an official spokesman of the
Sringeri Matha, no matter what some on this list may think.

Four, please learn how to search on the internet. An article written by 
anybody, no matter how famous or

unknown, is not necessarily accessible through Google, especially as I 
already told you that it appeared as

part of a souvenir, with many other articles alongside it. The souvenirs 
themselves, will show up in searches,

and you can figure out how to look within them. Do not expect answers to be 
handed to you on a platter.
Doing literature searches takes time and patience. Did you try finding and 
reading Swami Tapasyananda's
translation of the Madhaviya Sankaravijayam, which quotes a letter from the 
Sringeri administration about

this very topic? If you have, don't you see that many of your questions are 
meaningless? If you have not,

why don't you first follow up on this and then ask your impertinent 
questions? Did you also take the trouble

to read the book, A History of Sringeri, by Prof. A. K. Shastri of Karnataka 
University, Dharwad? I have
mentioned this book several times in previous threads of discussion 
initiated by you on this list. Surely, you
can find that book via Google or some other easily accessible search. In 
fact, the top result on Google for
this book is a library in Australia. If you have not managed to find and 
read that book, may I ask what are
you waiting for? Is it your intention merely to ask questions on this list 
and not give any answers yourself?
If you are interested in doing research, please equip yourself with the 
necessary materials and methodology
to do a thorough and impartial job of it.

Five, develop the necessary patience. I already told you that I will try and 
dig up the said article when I
go to India next and post details. If you cannot wait and if this is such a 
pressing matter to you, you are
welcome to make a trip to my brother's house in Mumbai right now and search 
for it yourself. I can give you
the address, if you are willing to drop everything and make the trip.

Have a good new year,


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