[Advaita-l] Atman -- soul or witness or both ?

Michael Shepherd michael at shepherd87.fsnet.co.uk
Thu Aug 27 06:22:00 CDT 2009

Praveen, this is leading us into Great Quotable Quotes...:

'Aim is method; method, aim;
bowman, target, both the same'... :)


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R. Bhat
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Hari Om, Michael,

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Michael Shepherd <
michael at shepherd87.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

> Praveen, namaste -- feel free !
> I think you describe two aspects of Ramana's teaching -- the method (pure
> saksin ?) and the aim, to be what we already are ?

To my understanding, remaining what we already are is both an aim as well as
the method, as per Ramana's teaching.

> Saksin and 'self' ... all translation is fraught with danger !  These
> I don't trust any nouns/nama, as they lead to definitions.. better, I'm
> thinking, to live in a world of verbs and dhatu... 'witnessing' leaves me
> free from the mind and dictionaries ! :)

OTOH, giving up on verbs would be like giving up action? :)

--Praveen R. Bhat
/* Through what should one know That owing to which all this is known!
[Br.Up. 4.5.15] */
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