[Advaita-l] BrahmaGYAna and jIvanmukti - 4 (Scriptural References)

savithri devaraj savithri_devaraj at yahoo.com
Mon Feb 12 12:20:15 CST 2007


Many thanks to Amuthan-ji and Ravi-ji for your
interpretations. I understand what you are saying,
I like to just add this - the pre-requisites for jnana
marga are stringent only so that there will be no
tainting in the understanding of sruti vakyas. 
It is easy to see that a person thinks, talks and acts
based on his tendencies, or vasanas, and the intent of
the pre-requisites is to eliminate this tainting for a
jignasu who is on the quest for the ultimate. 

--- Amuthan <aparyap at gmail.com> wrote:

> namo nArAyaNAya!
> dear shrImati sAvitri devarAj,
> On 2/1/07, savithri devaraj
> <savithri_devaraj at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >   This context makes sense in the thread than
> saying that a brahma jnani, by effort and giving up
> desires, becomes a yogi as the original posting did.
> This doesn't seem intuitive at all - vairaagya is a
> pre-requisite for jnana, one of the sadhana
> catushtaya sampattih, the others being shama adi
> shadka sampattih, viveka and mumukshutva.
> -------------------------------------------
> all these discussions are done with reference to one
> who doesn't have
> sAdhana chatuShThaya sampatti to its fullest extent
> but is
> nevertheless a j~nAni in the sense of having
> aparokSha Atmaj~nAna. as
> shrI raviSha~Nkar mentioned, the process of becoming
> a j~nAni is not a
> linear one. it is true beyond doubt that Atmaj~nAna
> cannot be attained
> by one who doesn't have vairAgya. but for *complete*
> cessation of the
> natural tendency of the mind to identify with the
> body, a steady
> abidance in Atmaj~nAna along with tyAga, vairAgya
> etc. are recommended
> by AchArya himself. if a yogi is defined as one who
> strives to attain
> the goal of yoga, namely chittavRtti nirodha, then
> the very fact that
> steady abidance in Atmaj~nAna leads to chittavRtti
> nirodha (see BUBh.
> 1.4.7.) implies that AchArya is recommending the
> j~nAnimAtra to become
> a yogi.
> vAsudevaH sarvaM,
> aparyAptAmRtaH.
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